Extreme Garuda MELEE Woes

[Akuha]

I know how bad it is for melees. I've been trying to clear it for a while now on my MNK, just to finish the damn quests and get the weapon at the end. But can't for the life of me find a party that'll clear it. DF groups are 99.9% guaranteed to fail and party finder groups only take people that are ranged and/or insanely overgeared/experienced. There are people that sell carries for the EX fights, but I never condone that because you wouldn't have earned the prize at the end that way, but the prices of said carries are so sickening I figured the 5-6m price tag was worth noting.

[Francisco]

I really, really, really recommend having the OT tank Suparna from the start and make a dps tank Chirada, with all dps stacking for Downburst.

Does having everyone eat Downburst reduce the damage?

[Naunet]

Does having everyone eat Downburst reduce the damage?

Yes, it's split across the number of people who take it. More people means less damage per person.

[BlackPriest]

I clear Garuda ex on melee daily... But then again I create my own parties and know how to dodge wicked wheel.

[kukurumei]

Most the strats require a lot of gear, the normal strat is the only one that doesn't require a high gear check.

A lot of the strat is to avoid tornados, but in reality the tornados are a slow but fruitful learning experience. As a melee can (without any closer skill) travel through the tornados from left to middle to right, in very short time, once you learn (and it takes a good amount of learning) timing and paths of the tornados.

That's also how a Melee is "suppose" to avoid wicked wheel. You travel to the middle, during tornados, wait out wicked wheel, and go back, or go to the other sister. This gist of it is again knowing when wicked wheel happens...and that depends on how well you mesh with the pt and communicate the friction timing. You can do it base on "experiance" but depending on how fast the group bursts down sisters, it may totally throw off your timing.

I suggest melees do it the "normal" way, learn the tornados, become pros at tornados, and then rock garuda down to 1-2 tornado phase, with any amount of dps combinations.

[Whiz]

I think its to the point now where people are just bored and just make up stuff to post. lol

[Aikota]

Garuda skills: Slipstream --> Downburst --> Whicked Wheel one shot boom boom

Just move when she does downburst. Problem solved. If mele actually knew how to do this, people wouldnt leave. I do this on my MNK daily.

[kukurumei]

Garuda skills: Slipstream --> Downburst --> Whicked Wheel one shot boom boom

Just move when she does downburst. Problem solved. If mele actually knew how to do this, people wouldnt leave. I do this on my MNK daily.

We just look for friction from sister, as that's about when you know it's about to come (and have enough time to do something about it).

Not that hard, but easy to miss in the heat of battle. Traveling through the tornados is also easy if you sit there and watch the animation, but much crazier in a pinch. I believe there's a 6 second window to skim through to the healers. So approx 12 seconds is wasted per wicked wheel (if you choose to kill suprana). That's not all that bad, but not easy.

Taking geared range dps, to wiggle out of the gear check, is a safer method of pugs sadly.

[Sedant]

I believe the Japanese players have a tactic of using melee DPS as a third tank, to tank Chirada. The off-tank grabs Suparna, and main tank focuses on Garuda + Spiny Plume I believe.

Can be done, people simply don't deviate from the "most optimal" tactic. Just like how Coil parties refuse to not run 2 bards.

Actually the tactic involves multiple melles who grab Chirada and burn the hell out of her on the East side of the room while the off tank takes Suparna south and the main tank handles Garuda in the normal position. Very easy to manage as long as they are substantially geared.

[Silverharp]

Actually was in a group where the OT refused to pull Suprana off the MT during the tornado phase after we finished burning down Chirada. "You can dodge WW, you shouldn't have come as a melee if you don't know what you are doing."

The tornado phase, people. You know, the one with limited space?