Why I stopped paying for FFXIV

[Crevox]

red circle disappears, red arrow points to you

Red arrow pointing to you means an enemy actor is targeting you. Red circles are not actors, they cannot target, and thus there is no red arrow when this happens.

You've now lost all validity. Beyond that, I'd say monitor a constant ping to the server on a cmd window to watch the numbers, or run a tracert and look for slow pings.

You should know how to do all of this already, I mean, of course, you've looked all this up already.

Also, read the above post.

this is a problem with the game, not with our computers. not with our internet connections.

Information you send to the server goes through many different nodes to reach its destination (SE's servers). Can you guess what happens when ONE of those nodes takes longer than normal to relay the information forward? I mean, come on, you should be able to figure this one out. That's definitely the game's fault right? Right?

Right?

When you decide to start trying to act like you know what you're talking about, please be sure you actually are ready to know what you're talking about. Not only did I never say "ur pc bad huehuehuehuehuehuehue get better internet", but you clearly don't even know how all of this works, yet are trying to explain it like you do.

Also, for the people liking his post; stop trying to look for an easy answer to this problem. It shouldn't be "lol it's SE's fault" just because you're too lazy to try to fix the issue, or even figure out what's going on. No one is saying it's your fault this is happening, but that doesn't mean it's a problem you can't solve, or a problem that was caused by SE.

[Ri_ri]

Red arrow pointing to you means an enemy actor is targeting you. Red circles are not actors, they cannot target, and thus there is no red arrow when this happens.

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When you decide to start trying to act like you know what you're talking about, please be sure you actually are ready to know what you're talking about.

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[Crevox]

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I don't see a red circle. Do you? Cause I don't.

I specifically said red circle because some of Titan's attacks do that. However, those are not red circles.

See what I mean about people trying to make petty arguments instead of just trying to solve the problem?

I give up, I'm out. Have fun being ignorant and blaming SE for all the problems. Clearly no one wants to listen to reason or even try to solve the problem.

[Ri_ri]

1:20 is in super slow motion, un-missable, but it's a red rectangle, not a red circle

Edit: just noticed how ridiculous it is to make a case on whatever geometrical form the AoE area has and I actually wasted 5 minutes getting that video.
Well played.

[Whiz]

Those quitting due to lag spikes might as well quit the mmo genera. there hasn't been one mmo i've played to date that haven suffered from lag issues...every mmo.

[baopee]

I am on PoS3 too, there is not much we can do to fix the problem on our end, what I do is, I would start moving before the aoe is cast, and as soon as I am out of aoe area I would immediately cast something so that the server would recognize my current location. Since I Figure that out, it helps tremendously. I am not pro yet but I would only get hit once or twice during the whole titan HM (excluding the stomp)

[JMadFour]

Red arrow pointing to you means an enemy actor is targeting you. Red circles are not actors, they cannot target, and thus there is no red arrow when this happens.

but that is exactly what happens. Melee Mob starts a melee-range telegraph(aka red circle, square, cone, column, whatever shape the telegraph takes). You dodge the telegraph. Game registers that you are still inside the telegraph, when you are actually not.

Red/Purple Arrow from where the telegraph was, to you. Damage. the color of the arrow depends on the color of the Telegraph.

that IS what happens, no matter how much you scream and shout that it doesn't. It. Does. video evidence of it abounds, as has been shown in this thread.

Happens all the time with melee mobs. example: a Basilisk's special attack. (Body Slam, if I recall...I could be mistaken)

you say that it cannot happen. I say that it SHOULD NOT happen.

But it does.

thus, something is wrong. thank you for helping me show that.

and I do not believe that it is my computer or my internet.

why? because it does not happen in other games that use Telegraphs as a combat mechanic. on my computer. with my internet.

simple as that. you can feel free to continue looking down your nose and being insulting if it makes you feel better, though.

also, why does this argument seem to begin and end with Titan? It happens in other areas of the game as well.

[JMadFour]

I don't see a red circle. Do you? Cause I don't.

I specifically said red circle because some of Titan's attacks do that. However, those are not red circles.

See what I mean about people trying to make petty arguments instead of just trying to solve the problem?

I give up, I'm out. Have fun being ignorant and blaming SE for all the problems. Clearly no one wants to listen to reason or even try to solve the problem.

you are stuck on the literal red circle. we're talking about the Telegraph Mechanics. they are all sorts of shapes, not just circles. and the problem exists with all of them.

have fun being condescending and blaming players for all the problems. clearly you don't want to listen to reason or even try to tolerate someone possibly thinking that the game isn't absolutely perfect.

next tank class should be White Knight. we'll never have a shortage of Tanks then.

[JMadFour]

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this describes exactly what I am talking about.

pretty much to the letter.

1:20 is in super slow motion, un-missable, but it's a red rectangle, not a red circle

as does this.

both of these happen on my computer, which runs the game on high across the board. with my internet with 30-50ms latency.

Nothing like this happens when I play The Secret World, which uses Telegraphs just about as much as FF XIV does.

again, it's the game. not my hardware.

White Knights won't convince me otherwise.

[Eclipsed]

These kind of threads don't help anybody. if you want to quit, just quit. Don't tell anyone else about it and make a dramatic exit (most of the im quitting threads are posted by people not actually quitting anyway)

Latency is caused by a variety of factors all over the internet, Not all, but most, of these factors are beyond SE's control.

Again, this is a pointless reason. It doesn't help SE, or anybody on this forum, to say "i'm quitting cuz lags." It's a customer SE would have lost anyway since most (not all, but most) causes of lag are beyond their control.

Posting I quit threads can only serve to drag down the community and serve the poster of such a topic's need for attention.

Wrong... While the lag may not entirely be there fault. There are particular design choices they made when making this MMO, that make it unique among other MMO's in that the design of the client/server architecture makes any lag that you might have on your end 10x worse. The recent changes they made to instances, made it better but they do need to know that they still have an issue and something needs to be done. Almost every other MMO on the market is designed in such a way that either by allowing the client to handle more or predictive algorithms they compensate for normal internet latency. This game does not and for some people it really shows.