Why I stopped paying for FFXIV

[Alhanelem]

May I see your degree? I'm assuming you have one since you're telling me what exactly is possible or impossible.

Actually, I do have a BA with a computer science major from the University of Maine (Farmington campus), and I spent a fair bit of time studying networking as well.

The internet is an unreliable construct with huge degrees of tolerance needed in various areas for it to function. The very thing that makes the internet work (a complex web of redundancy and fault tolerance) is also one of the main things that makes lag a common problem.

So you telling me i am hating everyone who is satisfied?

It sure looks that way to me. People who are happy are either not going to post on a forum at all (the most likely), or express their satisfaction and good experiences in the forum.

Your implication is that by me saying I'm not having probelms and suggesting how other people's problems probably aren't the game's fault and that there may be ways for said users to fix their problems is I'm a white knight and anything I say should be written off just because I'm not upset, not having problems, etc.

When you are not afraid about it, i have to ask you why you even post in this threads and tell People to stop posting such threads?

Because they're annoying and serve no useful purpose? One thing I can promise you is that if and when the day comes that I decide to quit playing this game, I'm not going to announce it to the world. I'm j ust going to quit. I'm sure somebody at SE is smart enough to understand the possible reasons why somebody would stop playing their game. It's not possible to please everyone though.

[Arkune]

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So you telling me i am hating everyone who is satisfied? When you are not afraid about it, i have to ask you why you even post in this threads and tell People to stop posting such threads?

[Priya]

I knew it would come too

Not all of us can play like this person... if I did it like him, I'd be dead on the first Landslide. I have to be on the move before the marker even appears

I like how he gets away with jumping (adds about 5 mins in). Pretty sure it's common knowledge location checks aren't very compatible with jumping (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...stments-to-PvP), yet this guy casually jumps out of plumes. What I wouldn't give...



P.S -- EvokerKeii, thank you

[Alhanelem]

I like how he gets away with jumping (adds about 5 mins in). Pretty sure it's common knowledge location checks aren't very compatible with jumping (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...stments-to-PvP), yet this guy casually jumps out of plumes. What I wouldn't give...


P.S -- EvokerKeii, thank you

Well, jumping isn't supposed to help you avoid attacks in the first place, and it also makes you move slower in the forward direction. It shouldn't take a genius to see that if you jump you're actually more likely to get hit.

[Whimsicalalien]

I have people in my company that play from your region just fine. That said the only thing you can do if none of that stuff helps you is transfer to one of the JP data center servers with a high English population, such as Tonberry, as the latency would be substantially lower.

When I began playing at launch the server I'm currently on was the only one that wasn't locked out of NA/EU. I picked NA/EU because I didn't know about this game's delay issues. I have played other MMOS from the US/Europe before and have never encountered such a problem so how was I to know. I noticed the delay while leveling but I assumed it's due to so many people being crammed in one spot and the game being new and I thought that surely they are going to fix this later on... Anyways I had the high hopes for the recent patch since they promised to add 0.1 sec to instances but it didn't do any difference to me at all.

[Lecreuset]

Since you're already using WTFast anyway I'm going to suggest, like alot of people are already, to use pingzapper instead

Though it'd be nice if the people using these didn't have to use them at all lol

[Whimsicalalien]

Create a new character on or transfer to Tonberry (I think there were a couple others as well). Everyone says the population is mostly English. Then if you still have unbearable lag we can talk.

After talking to people on these forums I had decided to try playing on a Japanese server to see how it is. I didn't know that Tonberry has a English speaking community and I rolled on another one, that server only had people speaking in Japanese and I couldn't find any Eng speaking FC. I had made the decision to quit because I don't want to transfer(even now that I know that Tonberry has Eng FCs still no) and I don't want to re-roll either because my current toon would be a waste of time and I hate leveling all over again just because SE decided to make it different from others in relation to how latency is handled.

[Whimsicalalien]

If you mentioned your location sooner, we could have gotten to this point a lot faster.

I have thought things through and considered all possible actions and decided to quit because I find the whole situation unenjoyable. When I made this post it wasn't my intention to talk about my location and why I'm having delay issues, I did not intend to discuss it here and only did so because too many asked/demanded I do and not particularly politely too but it's the forums so whatevs. I made the post to tell SE and others about why I'm leaving and the issues I've had and wasn't impressed with.

[Billie21]

Funny.

The "fault" seem to be pretty changeable.

Reasons why it's OP's fault:
- You didn't do anything to solve the problem, so it's your fault.
- You did try to solve it? Then it's your location's fault.
- Problem happens to people who are not oceanic? Wonder what'll be the next party at fault.

Reasons why the fault is absolutely not SE's:
- The way the Internet works makes lag a common occurence, that's not SE's fault.
- Wait, didn't SE know that when they decided to make an *online* game? Yeah, but if they tried to code their game in a way that compensates for latency, the game would have cheaters and hackers.
- Oh wait... Don't we already have cheaters and hackers? Wonder what's next...

[Alhanelem]

I made the post to tell SE and others about why I'm leaving and the issues I've had and wasn't impressed with.

You're not telling anybody anything they haven't already heard before, which is the primary reason I object to I quit threads in the first place. You're not doing anyone a service, even if you think you are.

The "fault" seem to be pretty changeable.

This was covered way back. There are many different causes of lag. The vast majority of them exist somewhere on the line between you and the servers. Not the servers themselves. The main server cause of latency-like issues was addressed for most things that matter in 2.1 and will be done for the rest of the game as soon as they're sure it won't strain the servers too much.

You make this silly post to discredit people defending the game but it's not working because you provide no valid explanations of your own, you're simply abusing logical fallacies to create what sounds like an argument where none exists.

- Oh wait... Don't we already have cheaters and hackers? Wonder what's next...

The means you have to cheat and hack are much lower than in a game that puts the client in charge of everything. The only thing you can do (easily, at least) most of the time is use scripts or bots to automate repetitive actions. If the client has full control you can use actual trainers and hacks to dupe items, modify your stats, kill stuff instantly, be invulnerable, and all kinds of stuff to trivialize any aspect of the game. Let me ask you, do you want stuff like that to be easily accomplished?

(That's not to say that the game never had any security issues, but the ones we know about have since been fixed)