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  1. #21
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    Alwryn's Avatar
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    Alwryn Tourn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    1 out of 20 times, the party wipes because you missed that crucial Shield Lob

    As a healer I don't mind healing a low vitality tank, as long as those bugs and soldiers won't be hitting me.
    Why shield lob when you can flash?

    Also, when does a single missed lob mean a wipe?

    Joking aside, you raise a fair point. This issue is alot more complex when you get down to the nitty gritty then we give it credit for. It's also easy to say you don't mind healing a low health tank when that tanks risk of getting bursted too hard and dying is a real factor. Proper itemization for a fight is important. Sometimes it's just not being geared enough. If you can't compromise hp but you can't compromise accuracy either, you have a real issue that skill can not overcome.
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  2. #22
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    Will be down to 360 acc with full Light gear from CT, with DL accessories. Logical
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  3. #23
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    Kaguya Houraisan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Better secondary stats ensure those things won't be hitting you just as much as accuracy would. I've not once heard of a party wiping because a pld missed an attack. As a healer I do mind healing a low vitality tank as a low vitality tank can't survive certain things as well.
    Well, personally I pull with combo-ready Halone, if that missed whatever mob I was trying to pull would go straight to the healer. Depending on what it is... (a node from ADS or Caduceus or Dreadnaught), certain wipe.
    Maybe we haven't heard any about that because people usually are accuracy capped "by default" (DL gear).

    Quote Originally Posted by Alwryn View Post
    Why shield lob when you can flash?

    Also, when does a single missed lob mean a wipe?

    Joking aside, you raise a fair point. This issue is alot more complex when you get down to the nitty gritty then we give it credit for. It's also easy to say you don't mind healing a low health tank when that tanks risk of getting bursted too hard and dying is a real factor. Proper itemization for a fight is important. Sometimes it's just not being geared enough. If you can't compromise hp but you can't compromise accuracy either, you have a real issue that skill can not overcome.
    Yeah... I guess Flash with the enmity buffs now would be fine.
    For now I'm only tanking the EM Primals, I guess I'm neurotic about stuff hitting healers?
    But I wouldn't risk it :x
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  4. #24
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narcissus View Post
    Will be down to 360 acc with full Light gear from CT, with DL accessories. Logical
    lol? Full Light Armor + Full DL ACC + Hoplite Ring + Curtana/Holy Shield is 418 Acc on a Highlander.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    lol? Full Light Armor + Full DL ACC + Hoplite Ring + Curtana/Holy Shield is 418 Acc on a Highlander.
    You're right, trolled myself, regardless.
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    Last edited by Narcissus; 01-11-2014 at 03:50 PM.

  6. #26
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    Marledia Nadine
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMage View Post
    Ironically, SE said repeatedly that CT was meant to help more casual players gear for Coil.
    Yes, "help." CT gear is merely a single step in the right direction, and not meant to be a one-stop solution to preparing for Coil. The five weeks that you spend getting a full CT set is also enough time to fill the rest of your slots with i90 accessories from tomes. With it taking 5 weeks to get a full CT set, I doubt it's a coincidence that all six accessories cost exactly five weeks of myth capped tomes -- this is surely by design, and the new intended gear path, no doubts about it. Grab your relic or Titan weapon, and you've got an avg. ilvl ending up at 85 by the time you're out of CT. That's not even counting what you might get from Turns 1/2 if you're lucky in the meantime, because those have reduced accuracy requirements compared to Turns 4/5, and you shouldn't have any problems with them while farming CT if you started out with full Darklight.

    In contrast, without CT gear, you'd be spending your first tomes on upgrading your Darklight to AF2 for defense, which would leave all of your accessories at i70 instead of upgrading them to i90. This would leave you with much less VIT, as your average ilvl after getting full AF2 would only be ilvl 79 in the end. Oh, and that AF2 you'd go for first would actually take MORE than five weeks of tomes to acquire. Spoiler: At ilvl 79 you probably wouldn't survive the damage in Turns 4/5, so your accuracy wouldn't matter anyway.

    I fail to see the problem here. Sure, you might not be able to run into Turn 4 with an alternate class that you geared up in Crystal Tower and Darklight Gear while spending tomes on your main instead... but that's not what CT gear aims to make possible. What is it meant for then? If you're hitting level 50 on your first job, or you've already maxed out your main and you're looking to gear up another class, or you're deciding to roll a new main because your first isn't turning out to be as fun as you thought, and you invest your tomes accordingly while farming CT, then this is a HUGE improvement compared to the old gear path. You end up with an extra seven ilvls over the original gear path at the five-week mark, so you can get your feet wet in EX Primals and the last turns of Coil that much sooner. Yes please!
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    Last edited by Raymeo; 01-11-2014 at 04:08 PM.

  7. #27
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    Toranja's Avatar
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    Portus Cale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    What are jewels?

    (this is not WoW).
    I never played WoW. This is my first MMO. Rings, Earrings and Bracelets are in fact jewels. I call them as I see them. Live with it.
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    He doesn't mind us conducting trials so close to his bazaar, so long as he's properly compensated... Yes, Portus, we pay him in sorcery-blasted bird flesh. - Cocobygo

  8. #28
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    Between buffs from food and the accuracy that you'll receive from your jewelry, this non-issue is a non-issue.
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  9. #29
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    Kidel Aleron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narcissus View Post
    I guess I wasnt paying attention when I was equipping all of my CT gear on my Tank, didnt come to realize it was giving me 0 accuracy bonuses. Did I seriously just waste 4 weeks on drops for gear that I'm going to have to revert back to darklight for? Thanks again SE
    i have full armor ov light (except trousers, but well, i don't have acc on trousers anyway) and i have 464 accuracy without food.
    just use accuracy shield (allagan) and accuracy accessories/belt.

    anyway that's just a coincidence, since i use my 90 war for coil. just to say that there is no accuracy issue on CT gear, and you can always use Mithology head piece that gives accuracy.
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