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    Tank CT Gear gives no accuracy?

    I guess I wasnt paying attention when I was equipping all of my CT gear on my Tank, didnt come to realize it was giving me 0 accuracy bonuses. Did I seriously just waste 4 weeks on drops for gear that I'm going to have to revert back to darklight for? Thanks again SE
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    This really belongs in the tank forums. Anyway, lets not go all chicken little over this.

    You currently have 403 accuracy, which is sufficient for the content you would be doing on your character. Remember that the 470ish accuracy cap is for turn 5, which has a significant accuracy boost requirement over turn 4. It has been a long time since I've had to concern myself with accuracy caps on the early coil turns but I can say you are fine accuracy wise, especially after the recent enmity buffs. If you're not doing coil, or have no plans to, then your acc is fine.

    I also wouldn't suggest switching back to darklight even if you are missing 1 in 20 times, the extra vitality is too important.

    Staying alive and keeping hate are your main concerns after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alwryn View Post
    This really belongs in the tank forums. Anyway, lets not go all chicken little over this.

    You currently have 403 accuracy, which is sufficient for the content you would be doing on your character. Remember that the 470ish accuracy cap is for turn 5, which has a significant accuracy boost requirement over turn 4. It has been a long time since I've had to concern myself with accuracy caps on the early coil turns but I can say you are fine accuracy wise, especially after the recent enmity buffs. If you're not doing coil, or have no plans to, then your acc is fine.

    I also wouldn't suggest switching back to darklight even if you are missing 1 in 20 times, the extra vitality is too important.

    Staying alive and keeping hate are your main concerns after all.
    It is a strange problem, typically gear is supposed to prepare you for the next level of content and the armor of light would actually be a downgrade from darklight/darksteel for coil
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    Downgrade is a bold statement.

    If you're not having enmity problems, how is it a downgrade?

    I'm not trying talk about optimal situations, where gear is perfect. If you're having a problem, you need to figure out the source of your problem. If you are having enmity issues, then yes, you should gear for more accuracy even at the expense of some health. If you're having no enmity problems but survivability problems, light amour would be better due to increased survivability. This is all in context of the OP.

    What I'm saying is, OP should not be having serious enmity issues, due to a great deal of missed hits, within the content he is conceptually doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alwryn View Post
    This really belongs in the tank forums. Anyway, lets not go all chicken little over this.

    You currently have 403 accuracy, which is sufficient for the content you would be doing on your character. Remember that the 470ish accuracy cap is for turn 5, which has a significant accuracy boost requirement over turn 4. It has been a long time since I've had to concern myself with accuracy caps on the early coil turns but I can say you are fine accuracy wise, especially after the recent enmity buffs. If you're not doing coil, or have no plans to, then your acc is fine.

    I also wouldn't suggest switching back to darklight even if you are missing 1 in 20 times, the extra vitality is too important.

    Staying alive and keeping hate are your main concerns after all.
    I am missing considerably in turn 1 on CAD, not enough to lose aggro but enough to grab my attention. I will probably start using acc food and maybe meld some stuff together to compensate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alwryn View Post
    I also wouldn't suggest switching back to darklight even if you are missing 1 in 20 times, the extra vitality is too important.
    1 out of 20 times, the party wipes because you missed that crucial Shield Lob

    As a healer I don't mind healing a low vitality tank, as long as those bugs and soldiers won't be hitting me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    1 out of 20 times, the party wipes because you missed that crucial Shield Lob

    As a healer I don't mind healing a low vitality tank, as long as those bugs and soldiers won't be hitting me.
    Better secondary stats ensure those things won't be hitting you just as much as accuracy would. I've not once heard of a party wiping because a pld missed an attack. As a healer I do mind healing a low vitality tank as a low vitality tank can't survive certain things as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Better secondary stats ensure those things won't be hitting you just as much as accuracy would. I've not once heard of a party wiping because a pld missed an attack.
    Yeah, if your accuracy is low, but your other stats are higher because of it, even though you miss an attack here and there, the attacks in between will typically make up for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Better secondary stats ensure those things won't be hitting you just as much as accuracy would. I've not once heard of a party wiping because a pld missed an attack. As a healer I do mind healing a low vitality tank as a low vitality tank can't survive certain things as well.
    Well, personally I pull with combo-ready Halone, if that missed whatever mob I was trying to pull would go straight to the healer. Depending on what it is... (a node from ADS or Caduceus or Dreadnaught), certain wipe.
    Maybe we haven't heard any about that because people usually are accuracy capped "by default" (DL gear).

    Quote Originally Posted by Alwryn View Post
    Why shield lob when you can flash?

    Also, when does a single missed lob mean a wipe?

    Joking aside, you raise a fair point. This issue is alot more complex when you get down to the nitty gritty then we give it credit for. It's also easy to say you don't mind healing a low health tank when that tanks risk of getting bursted too hard and dying is a real factor. Proper itemization for a fight is important. Sometimes it's just not being geared enough. If you can't compromise hp but you can't compromise accuracy either, you have a real issue that skill can not overcome.
    Yeah... I guess Flash with the enmity buffs now would be fine.
    For now I'm only tanking the EM Primals, I guess I'm neurotic about stuff hitting healers?
    But I wouldn't risk it :x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    1 out of 20 times, the party wipes because you missed that crucial Shield Lob

    As a healer I don't mind healing a low vitality tank, as long as those bugs and soldiers won't be hitting me.
    Why shield lob when you can flash?

    Also, when does a single missed lob mean a wipe?

    Joking aside, you raise a fair point. This issue is alot more complex when you get down to the nitty gritty then we give it credit for. It's also easy to say you don't mind healing a low health tank when that tanks risk of getting bursted too hard and dying is a real factor. Proper itemization for a fight is important. Sometimes it's just not being geared enough. If you can't compromise hp but you can't compromise accuracy either, you have a real issue that skill can not overcome.
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