I can't decide what rings to use for SCH (need inpu)

[Manuka]

I'm curious, what's everybody's thoughts on the Vortex Ring of Fending as BiS for Scholar? Some people I know were discussing this and at first I wasn"t convinced since it lacks mind an ss/piety, but after seeing some of the math it might be worth considering. The fending ring has 15Vit (about 200HP), 11CritC (around 1% gain) and 11 Det all of which are pretty useful gains for a Scholar. For the stats we lose the greatest loss comes from the 13mind which equates to about 20hp on every physick (15 for embrace). Spellspeed is absolutely pointless because it has pretty abysmal scaling and if you're using all the other BiS you'll only have 15SS from boots (26 with Vortex of Healing) so with the secondary stat that low it will have almost zero noticeable effect on scholars. Piety is useful but feels more like quality insurance than a necessity for scholars that manage their aether, don't spam adlo an micro their pets' heals.

TLDR; Is the loss of about 35hp restore on physick/embrace worth 200HP, 1% crit and 11 Det? Cause I'm kinda leaning towards the fending ring.

[Calyanare]

TLDR; Is the loss of about 35hp restore on physick/embrace worth 200HP, 1% crit and 11 Det? Cause I'm kinda leaning towards the fending ring.

My personal opinion on this is that if you need the HP, it's worth it. However, I don't think it comes into the BiS equation as it's not the Best in Slot (the Bests will all maximize MND as this is the stat that increases heal potency). It's merely another option you have to help compensate for deficiencies elsewhere (apparently if you can afford an Astral Ring with even just a single Vitality IV or 2 Vitality IIIs, that is the better option as far as MND goes).

I would stack spell speed after both crit and det and before PIE mainly because at the very least, it means our fairies can pull off heals a bit faster too.

I think PIE is a bit underrated, but it's not as if we know everything about stat influences at this point in the game, anyway. Based on a cursory examination of screenshots of my stats (so scientific lol), PIE appears to have some effect on Spell Speed, but I could be totally wrong on this. Bah, let me go re-spec and take a look. Will edit soon. EDIT: Yep, I'm an idiot, no change. But I still think PIE is underrated. >.>

Take this on consideration, crit will give u double shield effect with galvanize but determination will guve u more healing potency i belive, u will want all the mind u can so the myth accesories are great for sch

Well, yes. But you have 2 ring slots and you can only equip one Hero's Ring of Healing. This whole thread is about what to put in that 2nd slot.