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    Does anyone have anyone have experience pulling Supra first? For heavy melee parties I would like to have a plan ready for them.

    As MT tanking Supra and Garuda I haven't had any problems eating a double WW with only Vengeance and Foresight up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayRising View Post
    Does anyone have anyone have experience pulling Supra first? For heavy melee parties I would like to have a plan ready for them.

    As MT tanking Supra and Garuda I haven't had any problems eating a double WW with only Vengeance and Foresight up.
    That's my million dollar question. I'm still trying to down this one, most of my attempts have been as War OT or Drg through PF mostly and a few DF, and the MT always falls. Once I started looking at strats it seems that most of those falls were due to MT eating 2 WW (I assume). Maybe it was healers slacking, or just the MT didn't know wth he was doing. But that's why I've been trying to see if OT should really pull Suprana first, so the MT doesn't get hit with 2 WW. But then you have melees needing to dodge WW, and it introduces more complications in a party of seemingly unprepared people lol

    Just a thought on my own comment "I haven't seen Suprana use WW after separating from Garuda, either, but not sure if it was due to distance or just Chirada being dead." If it had to due with distance only then Suprana shouldn't use WW if pulled first and separated from Garuda, so it's either Chirada being dead or a combination of both distance and a dead Chirada.

    IF Suprana stops doing WW after Chirada dies then maybe it is better to pull Chirada first (no WW), then pull Suprana off MT (no WW).. And just hope the MT can survive a double WW until that happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    That's my million dollar question. I'm still trying to down this one, most of my attempts have been as War OT or Drg through PF mostly and a few DF, and the MT always falls. Once I started looking at strats it seems that most of those falls were due to MT eating 2 WW (I assume). Maybe it was healers slacking, or just the MT didn't know wth he was doing. But that's why I've been trying to see if OT should really pull Suprana first, so the MT doesn't get hit with 2 WW. But then you have melees needing to dodge WW, and it introduces more complications in a party of seemingly unprepared people lol
    I have no first hand experience to this but I've read somewhere that having Chirada next to Garuda during this fight causes the small healing buff that can be seen in the HM version when Chirada isn't killed. It's really the only thing that might need to be considered with changing the kill order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Codek View Post
    I have no first hand experience to this but I've read somewhere that having Chirada next to Garuda during this fight causes the small healing buff that can be seen in the HM version when Chirada isn't killed. It's really the only thing that might need to be considered with changing the kill order.
    I haven't heard about that, only that they stack a damage reduction buff if too close together.
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