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    There isn't really any BiS gear for any class. The ilvl 90 stuff all has different stat allocations and they did that to cater to different play styles. The only BiS this game has, is all the available Ilvl 90 armor and Ilvl90-95 weaponry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrellaris View Post
    There isn't really any BiS gear for any class. The ilvl 90 stuff all has different stat allocations and they did that to cater to different play styles. The only BiS this game has, is all the available Ilvl 90 armor and Ilvl90-95 weaponry.
    please stop

    don't ever give advice about gear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderz View Post
    please stop

    don't ever give advice about gear
    Yes of course, everyone has to use the same gear sets, since you know. some people decided that would be the BiS. To bad the developers seem to know better and decided that different stats allows for more customatization and thus allows for more various playstyles.

    But yeah, you ... seem to know it all better, so go ahead and tell them to listen to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrellaris View Post
    There isn't really any BiS gear for any class. The ilvl 90 stuff all has different stat allocations and they did that to cater to different play styles. The only BiS this game has, is all the available Ilvl 90 armor and Ilvl90-95 weaponry.
    oh cool pls enlighten me how a skill speed oriented gear in ALL slots which only reduce gcd by 10% (hard capped) which cuts gcd from 2.5s to 2.25s only to see its still NEGATED NEGATIVELY by 0.3s server delay timeframe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderz View Post
    please stop

    don't ever give advice about gear
    Is there any chart with the real difference between, say, complete Allagan set vs complete relic set?
    I'm not a parser so I don't know... but I'm thinking that the difference is minimal, this game don't appears to be one that supports it.

    I think what Syrellaris said is not wrong. Theorycrafting may say that scholar relic is better... but I'd rather have determination and spell speed on my gear than "hoping it crits".
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    Another thread where I find people defending BiS as the ONLY possible build and you're a noob if you gear up otherwise.

    *sigh* When will people learn FFXIV is not the hardcore leet game they all hoped it would be, and stop clinging to that dying hope that it will ever become that. The difference in stats for the i90 pieces, regardless of set, are MINIMAL. The only real stat you have to worry about outside of your main is Accuracy. Other than that, the difference between the others is so damn small that you can put on any combination of gear and still do 100% of this game.

    If you're so into min-maxing your characters and tackling enemies that can ONLY be defeated by doing such....you better find another game, because that's not what FFXIV is.
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    Ha ha i know right! Yeah im slowly leveling that healer. Taking forever its so boring. But you you have a good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    oh cool pls enlighten me how a skill speed oriented gear in ALL slots which only reduce gcd by 10% (hard capped) which cuts gcd from 2.5s to 2.25s only to see its still NEGATED NEGATIVELY by 0.3s server delay timeframe?
    That is an all around issue with Square-Enix themself and isn't part of gear sets. Also, that 0.3 second delay is no longer present really, least not as it was in 2.0
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    Guys, you all deserve a cookie... ONE cookie and one cookie only for each one of you. Here!

    Now be happy and hug. *-*

    Stats don't make such a huge difference, as long as you're not completely wastnig them, while yes you will do more damage if you choose certain stats over others as they provide a better bonus for your class and possible playstyle (the latter doesn't apply anymore really, not to such a simple game anyway), if you don't specifically favor any you won't lose THAT much damage neither.

    The biggest damage loss you can have will come from how you play your class, not for what piece of gear you're wearing. (obviously there's a big gap between ilvl 50 and 90, but you should understand what I mean). Damage difference between a full BiS geared and another 90 decently geared is not that big if both know how to play their class. As long as you don't throw away your stat points into wasted stats (two big noticeable stats that go in a waste is ACC over the cap, and most content has a very low cap except Coil, and piety, as it can be overcome by smart play and efficient mana management past certain point, vitality could be seen as another wasted stat if you already have enough to ensure your survival).

    Anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syrellaris View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Empressia View Post
    oh cool pls enlighten me how a skill speed oriented gear in ALL slots which only reduce gcd by 10% (hard capped) which cuts gcd from 2.5s to 2.25s only to see its still NEGATED NEGATIVELY by 0.3s server delay timeframe?
    That is an all around issue with Square-Enix themself and isn't part of gear sets. Also, that 0.3 second delay is no longer present really, least not as it was in 2.0
    What he said is all wrong, the delay will always be there because it's given by the time the information takes to travel from your client to their server.

    What can be done is implement countermeasure to make this time not reflect any negative impact in your gameplay. But that's a whole different than there not being a delay.

    Regardless, what he said is still wrong because your speed is there, while is true that delays make haste a little less beneficial, this doesn't affect anymore as it may have 15 years or more ago. Either way, even if the delay interfered, you sending a command .25s earlier would still be .25 seconds earlier even if it gets delayed, because the delay will apply to both cases, so it's just a flat out base increase.

    Anyway, his point still remains that spell speed is a rather weak stat, but not because of the reasons he gave. However, crit rating will not add any decent amount of crit neither.

    It's up to you whether you wanna attack that little bit faster or crit 3 more times out of 100, or 5 more... I don't have the exact numbers. But they are not that unbalanced to make neither stat completely useless. Just not as good maybe.
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