SE it's time for A new Job Please. (Tank)

[Acala]

...One mistake and tanks fault fail fail fail fail blah blah...

Yeah this.

Well people as a whole will flock to the newest class for a boon then return back to what they were doing unless it becomes the new flavor of the month...

And this. And to address some of what the OP was talking about. Its a role/balancing problem not variety thing. After adding one, for a short bit there wont be as much of a shortage but god do you really think you want every kid attracted to the shiny new class tanking? enjoy the constantly failing groups.

All things considered, we are probably going to get a melee caster or ranged physical dps. Mainly because the gear for these classes exist in game and only would require new weapons/quests. Just base them off guilds in game and all they have to focus on is balancing. The simplest solution is usually the correct one.

No matter what some people are saying, they want a class that can dps while "tanking" to avoid duty finder time. To imbalanced so lets move on. The rest want an evasion tank. Problem is the game doesn't really support that. Unless you can avoid essentially all the big hits, which will again make it op as hell, your going to die. So unless they were hella creative with its implementation they would have to change end game mechanics. Or more then likely just be a pld/war clone that dodges slightly more but plays the same.

[Vinsyn]

Seeing as people want SAM to be a tanking class, please don't listen to them . I for one enjoyed being a heavy melee hitting class in XI, hybrid tank? No thanks! SAM would fit in perfectly with DRG. NIN as tanking job would be great since that's all I ever did was play SAM and NIN in XI.

Two class jobs I did ENJOY playing.

I'm a tank at heart why I leveled up WAR, but I enjoy dps, not so much as range but as melee and MNK isn't cutting it for me (why I havn't leveled it) and DRG, why would I wanna be a DRG if there's no Wyvern pet

[NeonC]

Sam or Drk one of them needs to be a tank. What else is there? Rune fencer (wth is that), viking (ugh), tank job needs appealing classes otherwise even less people will play them. Yes -part- of the issue is making tanks more enjoyable, the other part is making bad ass classes that people want to play. Healers need a cool class too, but they are so pigeon holed at this point I doubt it will happen.

[EdwinLi]

@EdwinLi: the stats of our class are irevellant in face of the role they are filling. Bard maybe the only class using Dex stuff, but at the same time it's still a ranged class. indeed it's a dps/support, but still a ranged class, the stats have no relatition with this... people look for find a way to justify the add of a class (dps/tank/heal) based on detail like this... but Yoshida have already said that for a class to be added it need to fill a role a need for the group.

I'm only say what I think is most likely possible by just what we already have in the game now.

As of now no one knowns what that 1 new class will be. It can be a Physical Melee, Physical Range, Magic Melee, Tank, Healer, Magic Range or two of these combined due to the class may have 2 Jobs on release.

As of now the game points more towards musketeer class when looking at all the current content they have placed in the game...

Musketeer guild is already set in Lisma since 1.0 but any other guild class have not been set up.

Musketeer NPCs and Gunblade NPCs are already in the game and Major and minor characters in the game are Musketeer class or Gunblade class.

Stat wise we need a 2nd DEX class/Job

Role wise we need more Tanks and Healers since we have 4 DD already

Damage Distance wise between Longe Range and Close range we need more Close Range Classes

Damage type wise we need 1 new Physical Damage Range Class or a Magic Damage Melee class.

Lore wise Musketeer and Gunblade class has been set into the game but Gunblade class we won't see until we can enter Garlean Empire due to the Guild being located there so it leaves only Musketeer guild being the two known Guilds that can be accessed.

DoW and DoM wise we need a new Mage class to balance the imbalance we have between the 5 DoW classes and 3 DoM classes.

Starting Class per City Wise we need another class in Lisma to balance the 3 starting classes per city in this game but this could be anything since there are some parts of Lisma still blocked off.

There is more than just 1 simple reason why each class has the possibility to be in the game but most of the reason for now stack towards musketeer so far. However, what will be released still remains unknown.

Any words said now by us members of the player base is only what we think is possible. It is not a certainty nor a 100% accurate guess. All this now is what we think.




Yes if Yoshi-P release Musketeer people who scream bloody murder because now we have 4 range distance classes and 2 melee DD classes.

Yes if Musketeer is not released people who have been waiting for this class since 1.0 will be mad.

Yes people who want a 3rd Melee DD class will be happy if they get Thief or a Red Mage class

Yes People will be mad if a 3rd melee DD class is not released.

Yes people who want another Mage class for DoM will be happy with a new Mage class released or mad if not released.

Yes people who wanted to play as scout will be mad if they don't see scout being released.

Yes people who want a Melee Mage for Red Mage will be mad if they don't see it being released

In the end there will always be people happy and mad about what new class or classes are released.

[Arkista]

uhhhh.... /point Warrior That is EXACTLY what warriors are.

I really wish you trolls would stop miss Quoting me and making it look like that's what I said.

EDIT Just so people don't get confused. I DIDN'T name Ninja and Viking as a New tank because I wanted a Tank who can DPS. .

I didn't say I wanted a tank who could DPS. I didn't give Ninja and Viking as examples because I wanted a DPS tank.

The reason people don't play tanks is because the community are ***holes to them. One mistake and tanks fault fail fail fail fail blah blah like you're so great.

Frickin pathetic the way you all justify your actions towards people. Being a jerk is being a jerk no matter what your excuse it. It's a frickin game get over it.

Someone beat me to it but When it comes to Rage Quitters its the Tank cause they act like they are Elitist. Been to dozens of different content where the Tank left First.

[Versiroth]

Three words....

Red... Mage... Tank.

Base job Thaumaturge, secondary Conjurer. Uses black magic for threat and white magic for mitigation.

[MageBlack]

Three words....

Red... Mage... Tank.

Base job Thaumaturge, secondary Conjurer. Uses black magic for threat and white magic for mitigation.

Heres a concept too. We have one class with two jobs, so far each job requires two classes. How about having a Job require more than two classes? GLA + THM + CNJ = RDM?

[NyneAlexander]

And this. And to address some of what the OP was talking about. Its a role/balancing problem not variety thing. After adding one, for a short bit there wont be as much of a shortage but god do you really think you want every kid attracted to the shiny new class tanking? enjoy the constantly failing groups.

Is that really a bad thing tho? Lets say that only 30% of the people that flock to this new tanking job actually stick with it. We'd still have more tanks than we have currently (provided those that switch aren't already tanks.) And so what if they're bad? There are plenty of bad WAR and PLD as it is. I'm not sure how that would make much difference. If they aren't flocking to be a new bad tank, then they'll probably stay at their current job being bad heals and bad dps. There are already constantly failing groups. Adding a new tank class wouldn't change that.

[Versiroth]

Heres a concept too. We have on class with two jobs, so far each job requires two classes. How about having a Job require more than two classes? GLA + THM + CNJ = RDM?

Well, technically, each job already gets access to two other classes other than it's primary. In the case of a Red Mage tank, it would have to have Gladiator as the second class as you simply can't tank in this game without provoke.

[MageBlack]

Well, technically, each job already gets access to two other classes other than it's primary. In the case of a Red Mage tank, it would have to have Gladiator as the second class as you simply can't tank in this game without provoke.

But the second, secondary class is not a requirement. I was thinking make it a requirement and then it would allow for a different range of cross class abilities. Its just a thought, dont know how well it would actually work in practice or what kinds of implications it could have for future class/job development. Could be neat though.