Before analyzing the Market please read.

[Xystic]

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I'm not going to counter argue all your points.

This thread indicates that the only way you can prove the market is going one way or the other is specifically the gil in circulation numbers. This gives us a much better overall view of the market. Personal numbers and even a few handfuls are small compared to the gil in circulation numbers.

A lot your arguments are based off your own independent thoughts of what you see is happening. You've even included the fact which, you used the forums as a source of your information. The forums is a great source of information like wikipedia but should not be used as a legitimate source just like wikipedia.

Once again, a lot of your arguments contradict each other just like the previous post and some of them are also logically flawed.

Unless you can provide these numbers, we can't soundly argue good or bad.

[OSUBuckeye4]

I'm not going to counter argue all your points.

This thread indicates that the only way you can prove the market is going one way or the other is specifically the gil in circulation numbers. This gives us a much better overall view of the market. Personal numbers and even a few handfuls are small compared to the gil in circulation numbers.

A lot your arguments are based off your own independent thoughts of what you see is happening. You've even included the fact which, you used the forums as a source of your information. The forums is a great source of information like wikipedia but should not be used as a legitimate source just like wikipedia.

Once again, a lot of your arguments contradict each other just like the previous post and some of them are also logically flawed.

Unless you can provide these numbers, we can't soundly argue good or bad.

So essentialy your answer is... "Until you can hack into SE's systems and obtain data that they have refused to release.... I'm not going to respond to anything you said. Know that I disagree with a lot of it though, I just won't get into it".

Allright then, have a good day.

I'll leave you with one thing to think about before I leave.

This section of the forum has blown up with people pointing out warning signs/red flags. SE has come in a few times and responded, they've even gone so far as to set up a subforum about the most complained about thing (housing).

They read these posts, they see what is going on. Yet... they choose not to release any of the data that you say we need to see in order to judge the economy. The closest we ever got to seeing the "big picture" was when Yoshi tried to explain the rationale behind housing prices ("x" number of players had ABSURD amounts of gil, and some of it needed to be purged from the economy)... he refused to provide concrete numbers though.

Hmmm... why do you think that is the case?

[Shyen]

They read these posts, they see what is going on. Yet... they choose not to release any of the data that you say we need to see in order to judge the economy. The closest we ever got to seeing the "big picture" was when Yoshi tried to explain the rationale behind housing prices ("x" number of players had ABSURD amounts of gil, and some of it needed to be purged from the economy)... he refused to provide concrete numbers though.

Hmmm... why do you think that is the case?

Cause the amount of gil generated, circulated and depleted is sensitive data that no company executive in their sane mind would divulge to the public. And rightfully so. They already have a problem controlling BOTs and their influence on the gil flow; I think divulgating such data might turn into an even bigger problem by offering the wrong people ways to hoarde/sell more currency on a silver tray.