How botting may Kill this game (even if the game rebounds)

[TheVedis]

I think the RMT fishing bots are the biggest problem. Take away those and there probably wouldn't be enough crystals to support the non-RMT botters. Also, the non-RMT botters definitely are not getting rich. It takes serious amounts of gil to get a craft to 50 in most cases. (along the lines of 100M for GSM for example, or so a LS mate told me) And once you get to 50 there are not many profitable synths, because there are dozens and dozens of others with crafts leveled. Just my opinion for the most part, but I think people have serious misconceptions about the issues at hand.

most gear is profitable, you almost never make gear at a loss regardless of what you make
the problem is people arent making uber profit off single pieces, which is what people usualy mean when they talk about profit

i can easily make 20-30k profit a piece, and mass produce tons of easily sellable pieces
the problem is, why do this when i can farm for better profit?

botting is an issue, and alot of the ideas here are utterly rediculous

just report them to the STF and let them deal with it, it isnt our job to be able to do something directly about it as there is NOTHING we can do in all honesty

[Koronos]

most gear is profitable, you almost never make gear at a loss regardless of what you make
the problem is people arent making uber profit off single pieces, which is what people usualy mean when they talk about profit

i can easily make 20-30k profit a piece, and mass produce tons of easily sellable pieces
the problem is, why do this when i can farm for better profit?

botting is an issue, and alot of the ideas here are utterly rediculous

just report them to the STF and let them deal with it, it isnt our job to be able to do something directly about it as there is NOTHING we can do in all honesty

Yes I suppose I was thinking of profit more as it relates to time and effort involved. I made a bunch of lowbie gear at R20 ARM and actually made a couple mil my first two weeks, but its a lot of work and the market gets saturated very easily with such a small player base right now. I agree that botting is a huge issue, and hopefully SE will address it soon.

[TheVedis]

Yes I suppose I was thinking of profit more as it relates to time and effort involved. I made a bunch of lowbie gear at R20 ARM and actually made a couple mil my first two weeks, but its a lot of work and the market gets saturated very easily with such a small player base right now. I agree that botting is a huge issue, and hopefully SE will address it soon.

its not even the botting that is oversaturating the gear market
its the materials market being hit by it(and the crafters suffer there honestly)


yet you still have people stating we gouge prices, make sense of that, we barely make a profit unless its hq