tanks are crazy tough right?

[Pesmergia]

I stay shield oath always unless it's bosses like wall, where I swap after bees spawn. Healer can dps better than us anyways, no reason to deprive of mana and become a mana sponge.

[Zuri]

On 1 mob: Sword Oath will pull a lot more hate than Shield Oath, specifically if you use FoF . For multiple mobs, Sword Oath is a joke against very well geared DD. Shield Oath is the way to go if you want to keep hate, that is.

[Kadas]

Tanks are butter, welcome to the world of Lv50 tanking, where a fish may oneshot you

[Masenken]

So all that said, if i'm reasonably aware of whatever situation I'm in, what difference does it make then that I'm switching oaths to eke out as much dps as possible before grabbing whatever key mob I need to tank

[Leiron]

You're a tank, not a DPS.
Your job is the following.

1. Hold agro
2. Don't die by utilizng your buffs to mitigate damage.
3. Handle any mechanics thatare specific to you.


Your DPS is nowhere comparable to a DPS, and the amount you add throughout the fight by swapping Oaths is not worth the loss in mitigation.
25% eHP/25% ndirect healing bonus > doing more damage in Sword oath.
Don't stress the healers, use your tanking stance.

[Kyana]

Shield oath most of the time except in special situations like Amdapor Wall or when not tanking.
Also in fights with tank swaps it can help to switch if you don't risk heavy damage from AoE or other abilities.
It can also help with hate management. I just love tanks which keep spamming their hate combo after a tank switch instead of helping out with a stoneskin or Storms Path.

I've pulled hate off of many tanks who are not in shield oath with just auto attacks.

Don't play with bad tanks or tanks with weak equipment.

[Masenken]

Shield oath most of the time except in special situations like Amdapor Wall or when not tanking.
Also in fights with tank swaps it can help to switch if you don't risk heavy damage from AoE or other abilities.
It can also help with hate management. I just love tanks which keep spamming their hate combo after a tank switch instead of helping out with a stoneskin or Storms Path.

That's pretty much exactly what I do. If I'm not actually tanking anything, I switch to sword oath and support the other tank and whatever dps I can. When I'm actually tanking something, I tank it right and proper. I actually hold off on a lot of my abilities just so I don't overtake the other tank after a swap, so throwing some SS's out is usually my first action.

I'm honestly surprised at how many folks flat out find sword oath utterly useless. Seems a waste to me to not actively switch as the situation arises instead of just popping shield oath and sitting on it all day everyday except when solo when it doesn't even matter.

[Yunnie]

I stay shield oath always unless it's bosses like wall, where I swap after bees spawn. Healer can dps better than us anyways, no reason to deprive of mana and become a mana sponge.

I can't remember the last time I saw bees spawn... You should be sword Oath this whole fight because the damage wall does is a joke. You should be in sword oath, your healer should be in cleric stance, and hopefully wall should be dead before 2nd repel. If the bees do infact spawn, this is the time where you should consider being in shield oath because this is when the damage ramps up (and even the. Sword oath and cool downs should still carry you). In this instance, I still tend to ignore bees unless the party is terribly geared, and that instance- your probably the highest dps anyway... I bring this up because on your avatar, you have at least a valor coronet, which means you have pretty good gear

[Lord_Zlatan]

Like I said, it depends on who you play with. i85-90 dps pull A LOT of enmity. If you are tanking a crowd in sword oath, good luck! your "dmg" enmity is only coming from what you hit. shield oath enmity buffs flash.

Its also very easy to pull hate from a shield oath pld using sword oath depending on where you are in the fight. sword oath has no enmity suppression so when im using it while offtanking I have to hold back most of the time unless the other pld is close to i90 also.

I use SO in these situations and just wait for 5 seconds after they pull. Usually thats enough time for them to be hitting Halone while I'm hitting fast blade, and I just use the Riot Blade combo.

[Remn]

on single boss fight, I always open with Sword Oath, never had aggro problem. (This is agasint i90 DPS who dont hold back) Currenly there is a bug that let Sword Oath build more aggro than Shield Oath.

By single boss fight i meant , Garuda and Titan Extream mode. I have pull aggro of the MT using sword oath so many time that i lose count ><.


On te side Note, Currently if you swapping from shield oath to sword oath right away. the enmity buff from shield oath will remain while you in sword oath.
the best way to avoid this is to manually turn off shield oath buff first then activate sword oath afterward.