tanks are crazy tough right?

[AmandaHuggenkiss]

Some dps have to hold back if you are not using shield oath, it gives a massive enmity boost (especially since 2.1). I guess it depends on who you play with.

I've pulled hate off of many tanks who are not in shield oath with just auto attacks.

[Marveth]

Remember that healer dps is higher than equal gear tank gear. So its better to take as little damage as possible and leave the healer to dps.

[Hanabira]

o.o how do you dodge downburst? i usually just pop inner beast and eat it

[Eclipsed]

Using sword oath while MT'ing is just never a good idea imo. Even in sword your dps will still not significantly alter the speed of the run. The healer letting you take a few more hits and swapping to cleric stance to nuke, will. If you are that geared that it isn't an issue, it just means your healer can do more actual dmg that will actually matter.

The Whm's I run with frequently top the dps parse with holy spam on trash and things like feathers in Garuda EX. Even in sword oath, you will never even come close to a real dps. The math doesn't lie.

[AmandaHuggenkiss]

o.o how do you dodge downburst? i usually just pop inner beast and eat it

Downburst is a frontal cone, she get's locked when "casting" so just run through her slightly and run back.

[DroxXodia]

I've haven't played tank in ff14 yet, but plenty of tank in other games.

The reason is simple, your a tank not dps. the extra dmg you get per swing is negligible compared to what a real dps character can do. Your job in group play is to keep all aggro at all times and take as little damage as possible.

Use sword oath when you're soloing or playing with friends in easy places.

[TitanACU]

Well, you're a healer, not a DPS. There are times when a tank needs to switch his oath. If they haven't done it much then they need practice switching, otherwise its easy to forget about since you only activate an oath once, normally. I personally don't do this much except in trials but knowing how to helps alot in Garuda EX. i use Sword oath for the first add with Fight or Flight and Rampart, then switch rq to pull the next add. i dont have any issues with my healers about it either. I'm sure it helps that im an i 88 PLD.

[Cligue]

You are a tank, your job, especially in harder fights is to keep the mob focused on you wile taking as little damage as possible. In easy content I will go sword oath. But for content were healers are already strained, you are just adding more to their plate.

[Masenken]

I only use sword oath as OT, at the moment, when hate isn't my main priority. But I also hold out during the initial volley to let the tank secure hate before I start in because I've had several instances of overtaking the MT. Dealing more damage when I can just makes sense to me, and switching back and forth when you know the fight is child's play. So why not?

During trash pulls, I usually open with two hits, FoF, circle, flash, then end the rotation. I'll tag each mob throughout, but I'm pretty much set at that point even with high AoE bursts.

[Masenken]

Downburst is a frontal cone, she get's locked when "casting" so just run through her slightly and run back.

That is good to know, because I tried to run and she followed me, then or it in my backside haha, any other time I just took it in the teeth