Enmity no longer an issue.

[Hayward]

To the hotshots who claim the game is dumbed down now: Get over yourselves.

I am glad that enmity is more solid for both tank classes. No Paladin should have to find him/herself trying to keep up with a trigger-happy DPS who's only concerned with his/her parser score and not the task at hand. You really should be thanking SE. Now Paladins/Warriors won't be able to let you tank whatever he/she wasn't tanking directly.

[OPneedNerfs]

I was telling fc lastnight while doing coil enimty is to much now. I don't even have to hold back from nuking. It's getting to the point of to dumbed down pretty soon.

SE some people weren't meant to play this game stop dumbing it down. I left ff11 cause of this....

Lifting your finger off the button is soooooooo hard. Qq moar.

[BlueMage]

Bad design is forcing people with level 55 weapons play the same dungeon as people with relics. Having people watching their damage/over healing is good design.

We need some connection between the people playing, which was what enmity meters gave us. Holding back on damage to not grab aggro, catching on when you can AoE, when you can't, when you can just focus on one mob because the other party members are attacking that one...

I completely agree with you, but unfortunately people only work that way in theory. In reality, the i90 geared healer spamming Holy and Medica II or i90 BLM spamming Flare will just blame the i50-60 geared tank (probably learning the dungeon for the first time) in WANDERER'S PALACE for being undergeared, cause jeez everyone knows WP Dungeon Finder is for relic/coil gear onry.

Have you ever tried marking targets in a party (1, 2, 3, kill order) and get relic DDs to actually attack 1, instead of one of them bursting as hard as they can on 3 and the other bursting as hard as they can on 2, while 1 is untouched? I main DRG/BLM, and I follow kill orders if a tank sets them, so I know DDs can not be a-holes but the overwhelming majority of DDs I see have no concept of cooperation or responsibility or apparently even how to count.

Even if they got rid of gear imbalance by making gear sync to the ilevel of the dungeon post-50 (for example, your gear is synced down to i60 for WP/AK, which are both dungeons designed for i50 and drop i55 gear, so you'd still technically be overgeared, just not as dramatically) it wouldn't fix people being dumb, or asses, or both.

[Camate]

Greetings,

While there might be some situations where it is easy for a tank to maintain enmity, the overall balance of content difficulty has been adjusted by giving consideration to the struggle for a tank to maintain enmity.

[Ashrahm]

Now if we could get shield oath first instead of sword oath mid level tanking would be great

[Jubez187]

I do think Paladin has too much single target enmity generation.

Famous quote by me (not really famous but something to think about):

Healer: "Can you flash more please?"
Me: "If I don't ever lose hate, how is this game fun for me?"

Never losing hate is the same as pac-man without the ghosts.

[Lumiin]

Greetings,

While there might be some situations where it is easy for a tank to maintain enmity, the overall balance of content difficulty has been adjusted by giving consideration to the struggle for a tank to maintain enmity.

So in other words some bads couldn't keep hate, whined, and you guys made the game even EASIER.

Sigh.

[Jubez187]

Greetings,

While there might be some situations where it is easy for a tank to maintain enmity, the overall balance of content difficulty has been adjusted by giving consideration to the struggle for a tank to maintain enmity.

Really the only way to combat this is to put Random Aggro; however, that puts a big X factor into the boss fights. The two design paths shouldn't be: "Tank will never lose single target hate" or "Random Aggro that the tank has 0 control over"

What if some bosses could reset their hate after HP benchmarks?

[MurakumoMillennium]

I did notice this in Ultima Weapon battle. The main tank and me were trying to get hate, but Ultima just remained on him. Of course after a couple of provokes, flashes, and shield lobs I managed to get it' hate.

Uhhh, if it took all of that then something is seriously broken in a horrendously bad way. A single provoke is all it should have taken to get hate, as that's what it does: puts you 1 enmity above the highest person.

[jars]

I wish this was true. I pull off plenty of tanks with bane and shadow flare. not on bosses I guess but certainly on aoe pulls.