Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[PArcher]

Just a couple of questions on your ADS Enrage dps. Is that with your group going left? Also, are you still flanking, getting in IDC combos, etc? I'm curious as my group always goes to the right for the enrage method and forbids everyone from moving once the ADS starts his enrage phase (we all stack on the tank).

There honestly isn't any reason to just stack like that; all you have to avoid is going out of heal range (which is pretty large for Medica/2 and Succor, especially if the heals are near ADS...is the WHM only using Cure 3?)

I'd also assume left, since that Piercing debuff on the right just kills our DPS...

[EasymodeX]

So, for anyone who's been reading the detailed comments when I've posted stat weights and gear sets, and/or otherwise perusing the rest of the forum, determination has been somewhat of a ? mark for awhile. The original work by valk from beta resulted in a damage formula that most people have been using for awhile. This damage formula has been known to "undervalue" determination by some amount.

Recent work has been done to get a more accurate damage formula. Currently, I posted a pretty good approximation in the other thread (note: it is not the *actual* damage formula, which Eien and others are still working on, but it's reasonably close to actual results for a wide range of stats).

In sum, new damage formula with more better DTR representation results in new stat weights and new/old gear. The note on these weights: they probably won't change much even with a "true" final damage formula.

Stat weights (per point);

WD 8.488
STR 1.000
DTR 0.323
CRT 0.184
SS 0.152

Item budget weights (stat weights scaled to expected gear amounts - secondary stats):

DTR 3.55 (this is DTR stat weight * 11)
CRT 2.95 (CRT*16)
SS 2.43 (SS*16)

Absolute "best in set" for 482 acc:

HQ Buttons
Myth Belt
Allagan Boots
Myth Bracelet
Myth Chest
Allagan Earring Maiming
Myth Gloves*
Myth Helm
Allagan Leggings
Allagan Necklace Maiming
Allagan Ring Striking
Allagan Ring Maiming
Allagan Weapon

This is basically a DTR-optimized set of gear.

I think there was a tool someone else posted where you could input your weights and constraints -- you can use that for other optimized gear sets (for example, using HQ Eggs, or for 472 acc, or for no acc, pre-T5, etc).


* Yes the Myth gloves are basically bad with the skill speed sink on them, where you could trade for acc from the Allagan. This result is because there's a complex set of acc tradeoffs between item slots that does make this optimal. However, due to the exact #s of acc across Dragoon items, if you lower the threshold to 481 acc, that series of tradeoffs is reversed and you get a more intuitive "Allagan Glove, Allagan Helm" situation. The 481-482 threshold occurs frequently for the gear set thing. It would be nice if the gloves had 16 acc, not 15.

[Migosha]

Thanks for the work EasyModeX. If you're using a script for that, may you run it for 472 ACC?
It has been discussed before in this thread that the "482 acc needed for T5" seems to be more a rumor than a proven fact. All those who runned with 472 acc on T5 weren't able to get a miss (or I'm the one who missed a post on this topic), so I'd like to see a BiS set aiming for 472 ACC instead of 482.
I'll try to make that list myself, but a script will always beat me at this "game".

[JetBrooks]

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Thanks a bunch for your work!

I'd like to note that it seems that chest remains the most valuable investment of myth tomes, as I think it is in every known BiS set at this point. Assuming you're worried about gearing up multiple jobs, this is pretty much the must buy for DRG.

I'd say myth belt and helm are the next most valuable investment of myth tomes, as they are in a whole lot of BiS sets as well.

Disclaimer: as always, if you have an available allagan drop, take the damn thing, and adjust your gear accordingly, if needed. Main stat always wins.

[AugustusSB]

Stat weights (per point);

WD 8.488
STR 1.000
DTR 0.323
CRT 0.184
SS 0.152

Thanks for the work as usual, I always knew DTR had it in him!! ha; but on a sad note I am now back down to only 4 best in slot pieces on my char. Damn Allagan never drops for DRG