Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

[Ayvar]

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I'm only seeing the 463 accuracy sets hitting 433 accuracy, can you double check the numbers for me. I see 341 accuracy with 92 added from gear (15+34+16+16+11 from hands, legs, waist and both rings respectively)

Ahh I see you are hardcoding food values, The way I am doing it is dynamically with completely rounding down basically floor the decimal value. So it has been determined the extra DPS weight from buttons now outweighs the 7-9 points of accuracy from eggs? I'll have to adjust my script to use buttons then if so.

Should be easy enough to compare. Run one list with buttons and gear at cap, and one with gear below cap using eggs to hit it, then compare the weights.

[EasymodeX]

Accuracy: 475 (total)

I'm showing 476.

belt - 16
bracelet - 11
glove - 15
helm - 21
legging - 34
neck - 11
ring - 16, 11
base - 341

What is the difference?

[Dervy]

I'm showing 476.

belt - 16
bracelet - 11
glove - 15
helm - 21
legging - 34
neck - 11
ring - 16, 11
base - 341

What is the difference?

Thanks for noticing the typo

[EasymodeX]

It's not overly complicated. Accuracy is worth whatever you trade it for. In this model we try our best to trade acc for skill speed. In some cases, acc for crit, and in the rarest cases acc for dtr.

Picking crit as an average, HQ Eggs caps at 24 crt, 10 acc (crt). This is 34*.184 = 6.26.

Buttons caps at 16 dtr and 10 crt, which is 7.01. Although I think with normal base stats, buttons will only be 9 crt, and eggs would be lower at like 22-23 crt. Also egg acc would be ~9. Shrug.


If I use a dynamic calculation then I have to run a GRG Nonlinear solve which takes about a billion times longer than a simplex linear solve, and isn't even necessarily accurate (but should be because solving for this isn't exactly difficult). If I use a hardcoded value for food then the error is at least localized to the food.

So I just manually override food with buttons and run a linear solver from there.

Edit:

And as Ayvar said, I run it once with each food as override and compare the final #s. They are accurate within the "hardcoded value food error" which is like ... 1 acc + 1 crt or something at most.

[AugustusSB]

^^ I'm an engineer and just brute forced the hell out of this with a VBA script in excel. It runs through every single possible armor combination there is in my database and picks the global maximum of DPS weight while equal to or above the acc requirement i enter. But I do like your approach, would of saved me some time if I thought about it from that perspective initially. Script usually takes about 30 seconds to a minute on this machine to go through it all. However with every new piece of gear I add I double the amount of combinations by two and depending on a whole lot of things could multiply the calculation time to who knows hahah.

Edit. In between every gear set possibility I apply the food buffs to the current set and do my rounding (flooring). It should be pretty accurate provided the game doesn't have any weird order of operation/rounding/truncation rules

[JetBrooks]

Wow, I thought acc cap was in the 480s for T5. That's great news. I'm at 470 w/o food right now, but don't have any alternate gear options at the moment. Guess I'll try to avoid extra accuracy for a while.

[Ayvar]

Wow, I thought acc cap was in the 480s for T5. That's great news. I'm at 470 w/o food right now, but don't have any alternate gear options at the moment. Guess I'll try to avoid extra accuracy for a while.

The discussion regarding the ~480 cap began on page 101, and parses have been posted sporadically since then. We're currently trying to narrow the cap down, but it's definitely between 460-470.

[JetBrooks]

The discussion regarding the ~480 cap began on page 101, and parses have been posted sporadically since then. We're currently trying to narrow the cap down, but it's definitely between 460-470.

Keep up the good work, guys! I'm no math whiz, but I love discussing concepts. You guys are the backbone to me trying to not talk completely out of my ass.

[AugustusSB]

All sets below are only valid if you use HQ Buttons in a Blanket.

Pre-T5 482ACC (485)
Weapon Relic+1
Head Allagan
Body Myth
Hands Allagan
Legs Allagan
Feet Myth
Waist Myth
Necklace Allagan Striking
Earring Tremor
Bracelet Myth
Ring Allagan Striking
Ring2 Myth
679.641

Pre T5 463ACC(465)
Weapon Relic+1
Head Allagan
Body Myth
Hands Myth
Legs Allagan
Feet Myth
Waist Myth
Necklace Allagan Striking
Earring Tremor
Bracelet Myth
Ring Myth
Ring2 Allagan Maiming
683.213

T5 482ACC
Weapon Allagan
Head Myth
Body Myth
Hands Myth
Legs Allagan
Feet Allagan
Waist Myth
Necklace Allagan Maiming
Earring Allagan Maiming
Bracelet Myth
Ring Allagan Striking
Ring2 Allagan Maiming
694.988

T5 463ACC(465)
Weapon Allagan
Head Myth
Body Myth
Hands Allagan
Legs Allagan
Feet Allagan
Waist Myth
Necklace Allagan Striking
Earring Tremor
Bracelet Myth
Ring Allagan Striking
Ring2 Allagan Maiming
698.693