PLEASE, stop teaching/telling new healers to DPS

[Raestloz]

It's because of the way he presented his issue. Instead of bashing the players who haven't managed to get a grip on heal DPSing, he's telling us to stop giving the advice at all. If some idiot overexercises and passes out from exhaustion or dehydration, do you tell people to stop saying exercise is healthy? It's not the advice that's at fault, it's the players not following the advice properly.

Entirely different beast.

What the OP is saying is "stop asking new combat medics to also shoot at the Nazis, they get so distracted our wounded are not healed properly"

If someone overexercises, the advice would be to reduce the amount of effort spent in one session. In "exercise" field, the equivalent would be someone who's doing yoga but also practicing kickboxing at the same time.

A true master can do both, but for newbies, you better start getting good at one first

[Lyrinn]

A true master can do both, but for newbies, you better start getting good at one first

Which still doesn't make the advice wrong.

And no, that is not how the OP came off to me. Here's the exact quote.

If you can't do it while keeping the tank’s health above 50% at all times, just stop. And at lower levels, you don’t have the Lustrates or Divine Seal Regens that make it easier to do at higher levels.

I'm perfectly fine with this qualifier, except it's immediately followed up with an absolute:

As a community, you guys have to stop spreading this message that healers should be attacking or they aren’t playing their class to their full potential.

If healers aren't attacking when they can be, they aren't playing their class to their full potential. Fact. And I'm not going suddenly say it's false because a few dummies don't know the basics.

[Marcusow86]

IMO, if i am healer and i am comfortable with DPS-ing, sure why not. If i am not, i can always just focus on healing only. I am a healer and as long as i fulfill my primary duty as a healer, no one can fault me.

No one can tell a healer that they absolutely should DPS, it is like telling a SMN that they should heal just because they have physick or a PLD that they should stoneskin just because they can cross class. Yes, it is nice if healers help out in DPS whenever they can, but if they don't and the party wipes, due to not enough DPS, then blame the DPS for not doing a good job even when that is their main role instead of bashing your healer.

And to healers out there, just because you are not a DPS and you can be lazy, doesn't mean that you cannot help out and add value to your class.

Finally to OP, you are just bad luck meeting a healing that cannot estimate and prioritize his/her mana usage.

[Raestloz]

Which still doesn't make the advice wrong.

And no, that is not how the OP came off to me. Here's the exact quote.


I'm perfectly fine with this qualifier, except it's immediately followed up with an absolute:

If healers aren't attacking when they can be, they aren't playing their class to their full potential. Fact. And I'm not going suddenly say it's false because a few dummies don't know the basics.

I saw the title "new healer" and assumed that the OP was, talking about new healers getting brainwashed with "noob, go dps" and things go hectic because they're distracted. I did not think that OP was talking about experienced players there.

Perhaps you see things differently than I do.

[Krisstina]

Which still doesn't make the advice wrong.

And no, that is not how the OP came off to me. Here's the exact quote.


I'm perfectly fine with this qualifier, except it's immediately followed up with an absolute:

If healers aren't attacking when they can be, they aren't playing their class to their full potential. Fact. And I'm not going suddenly say it's false because a few dummies don't know the basics.

If people aren't working when they can be, they aren't live up their full potential.
So, did u live up ur full prtential?? It's a game, stop taking it as a second job_(:з」∠)_

[Lyrinn]

If people aren't working when they can be, they aren't live up their full potential.

More like are you doing only what's on your desk and sitting around for half the day because you technically did what you were supposed to do? Good luck ever getting a promotion.

It's a game, stop taking it as a second job_(:з」∠)_

The irony is that I'm one of the more casual players who spends more than half the day crafting. Still have 0 myth items, cleared only turn 1 of BCoB, and have almost all of the new primal and dungeon quests still unfinished.

I simply try to do my job well.

[Krisstina]

More like are you doing only what's on your desk and sitting around for half the day because you technically did what you were supposed to do? Good luck ever getting a promotion.

LOL, so u likely to get a promotion by cleaning up the floor and fill coffee for ur colleague beside the work on ur desk?? I dont think so.

The irony is that I'm one of the more casual players who spends more than half the day crafting. Still have 0 myth items, cleared only turn 1 of BCoB, and have almost all of the new primal and dungeon quests still unfinished.

I simply try to do my job well.

Crafting all day and not getting much things done have nothing to do with casual~
Back to the topic. Having a healer who can and willing to DPS is a gift, not a must. They fulfilled their role, that's good enough. We dont againt what u trying to do with ur character, it's all up to u,but the infamous "I can do this and u should do the same" childish.