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    Quote Originally Posted by lololink View Post
    Except that's not that in reality, look at titan, one death, whoever it is, means wipe.
    Same for all DPS Check.
    Thats absolutley no true, you can easily kill titan with a dps down the whole fight, even with 2 down if the rest of the pt is goog geared and skilled. Titan is NO Dps Check as almost everybody thinks. The Heart goes down so fast and easy even with 1 or 2 Dps missing its no problem. In worst case you can also lb and have a healer go cleric stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Electrowitch View Post
    Thats absolutley no true, you can easily kill titan with a dps down the whole fight, even with 2 down if the rest of the pt is goog geared and skilled. Titan is NO Dps Check as almost everybody thinks. The Heart goes down so fast and easy even with 1 or 2 Dps missing its no problem. In worst case you can also lb and have a healer go cleric stance.
    Just to add to your post, Titan HM has been 3 or 4manned already. It can also be cleared with 6 or 7 WHMs and no DPS (or only just a Bard for Foe Req). The DPS role is not required whatsoever. Cleric Stance has made sure of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archona View Post
    Just to add to your post, Titan HM has been 3 or 4manned already. It can also be cleared with 6 or 7 WHMs and no DPS (or only just a Bard for Foe Req). The DPS role is not required whatsoever. Cleric Stance has made sure of that.

    You might want to change your wording, because the way you have it right now makes you look pretty silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Electrowitch View Post
    Thats absolutley no true, you can easily kill titan with a dps down the whole fight, even with 2 down if the rest of the pt is goog geared and skilled. Titan is NO Dps Check as almost everybody thinks. The Heart goes down so fast and easy even with 1 or 2 Dps missing its no problem. In worst case you can also lb and have a healer go cleric stance.
    Only in over geared party. Doing a level 80 boss in Relic and Allagan is not the norm.

    They still have it easier though. Healers have to know about everything or people will just die to Tumults/Mountain Buster. Then they have to deal with being in Gaol... because healing wasn't thankless enough.

    This is what I like about Ultima. Tanks and healers dying there is not too bad. You just raise them and recover.

    While the moment a tank drops in Garuda EM, it's wipe. Any of them. While if a caster dies... actually, they don't even have a risk of dying there
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    Tanks and healers are prime candidates for burnout. Mainly because their mistakes are the most visible.

    Tank screws up you either get boss/mobs bouncing around more than a ping pong ball or they miss a cooldown and end up one shot.

    Healer screws up and someone dies a horrible death.

    Unless a dps does something visibly stupid like hang out in a Landslide, the only way you know for sure they are screwing up is with a dps meter.

    Otherwise it defaults to it being the tank/healer's fault.

    Years of healing and tanking have taught me this:

    If the tank dies, it's the healer's fault.

    If the healer dies, it's the tank's fault.

    If the dps die, it's their own d@mn fault.
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    No more cast bars for Bard! Thank you, Yoshi-P! All hail our lord and savior!

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    PUG Tanks: The first to get blamed, criticized & condescended to. Mistakes are easy to see & your expected to know everything about a dungeon or encounter. And if you don't, you're a noob who should do something unspeakable to yourself or have the same unspeakable act done to your mother. Not the easiest way for most to learn a job.

    Ah... The glamorous life of a PUG tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadae View Post
    Tanks and healers are prime candidates for burnout. Mainly because their mistakes are the most visible.

    Tank screws up you either get boss/mobs bouncing around more than a ping pong ball or they miss a cooldown and end up one shot.

    Healer screws up and someone dies a horrible death.

    Unless a dps does something visibly stupid like hang out in a Landslide, the only way you know for sure they are screwing up is with a dps meter.

    Otherwise it defaults to it being the tank/healer's fault.

    Years of healing and tanking have taught me this:

    If the tank dies, it's the healer's fault.

    If the healer dies, it's the tank's fault.

    If the dps die, it's their own d@mn fault.

    That's why support roles in mmos are so awesome. They have the most power and are the most needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senfei View Post
    and all of your homies are super experience murderdeathkillers who can instaown any fight in the game..
    Was that a Demolition Man reference?

    I think that was a Demolition Man reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadae View Post

    If the tank dies, it's the healer's fault.

    If the healer dies, it's the tank's fault.

    If the dps die, it's their own d@mn fault.
    Agreed. I Couldn't have said it better, everyone just wants to feel like they are the main guy
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    I'm far from eccentric, I'm so psychotic...

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    I think tanks would be a lot more popular if people weren't so toxic towards them.
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