Idea to fix the lack of tanks in the duty finder

[Zfz]

I think it's likely two main problems:

1. Tanks jobs are intentionally made more difficult. Having to tab target to check enmity doesn't exactly make it easy on tanks. An Omen (WoW addon) type of interface that has the AoE mode would be the best.

2. Damage dealers more often than not don't really care if they're making it harder for tanks. For example, out of every 5 DD who attack the wrong target, only 1 will notice. The other 4 just keep on attacking the wrong target. Also DRGs and BRDs who attack the moment I run in, MNKs who are on-target faster than I am, etc.

So tanking already has a higher barrier to entry than other roles, add to that the unforgiving environment that tanks have to live through, is what's making people shy away from tanking.

I believe there are a lot of people wanting to try out tanking, but they don't have the opportunity to practice. They don't want to "waste other people's time" by practicing in DF or so. So in the end they stay away.

If the community is in general very forgiving of newbie tanks, willing to offer tips, then there are probably many more tanks now.

[Xieveral]

The reason we're not seeing duty finder doing well is that few people are bothering to use it

A big reason is because there's little incentive to queue up after hitting mythology cap for the week. The loot is obsolete for most people, gil bonus is meager and the items bought with philosophy tomes aren't very valuable these days.

As much as I hated it, something like the grab bag system from WoW would bring in more queues at least until everyone gets what they want out of it.

[Krystalynn]

I think it's likely two main problems:

So tanking already has a higher barrier to entry than other roles, add to that the unforgiving environment that tanks have to live through, is what's making people shy away from tanking.

I believe there are a lot of people wanting to try out tanking, but they don't have the opportunity to practice. They don't want to "waste other people's time" by practicing in DF or so. So in the end they stay away.

What I don't get is that we have an enemy list that shows all aggressive targets, and whether we have threat on them or not. They use a red icon, a green one and a ! warning symbol. This could have easily also shown threat on target, that or have an icon or bar above the enemy's heads below their hp, but instead we have to play guessing games.

[Mags]

One thing to keep in mind is that while the levels between 15-49 may be lacking tanks/healers in the DF, at top level there is no real shortage of them. FC's have their core tanks and healers and good DPS is needed. I belive part of the intention of roulette was to help see the needed classes inside the dungeon queues more often, and to be honest, it is working as intended. Leveling up a lower level DPS class, I have seen little wait for the queue.

But in the end it really matters little. If you are farming tomes for gear and you have not pigeon holed yourself into one role you can farm as whatever happens to be needed in queue.

[Kyandeisu]

I would assume the reason is alot of healer/tanks don't want to play with all those Jerks in the Duty Finder and run with their own groups ^^

This right here. Cuz if you play with randoms if for any reason party fails or sumone its always tanks/healers fault.

[Sapphic]

I think it's likely two main problems:

1. Tanks jobs are intentionally made more difficult. Having to tab target to check enmity doesn't exactly make it easy on tanks. An Omen (WoW addon) type of interface that has the AoE mode would be the best.

Tanking isn't hard. At all. More gear dependant? Tank has always been that way. Only other role which would be pushing the enmity is a healer, which using defensive CDs reduces that. DDs are easy to keep above, until the BLM gets a double flare crit too early XD. I find MNK needs more awareness during boss fights than tank due to positioning and dodging unmarked AE whilst maintaining GL3.

Not done turn 5 so can't comment on that, But upto turn 4 theres nothing really challenging for a tank. Turn 4 is about your DPS burning each wave before the next one pops. Tanks job is just holding them so DPS can do that.

"Hardest" part is defensive CDs and knowing to optimise usage of them prior to spikes in damage to help mitigate.

Healers have it hardest on movement intensive fights, eg Titan.

[synaesthetic]

A big reason is because there's little incentive to queue up after hitting mythology cap for the week. The loot is obsolete for most people, gil bonus is meager and the items bought with philosophy tomes aren't very valuable these days.

As much as I hated it, something like the grab bag system from WoW would bring in more queues at least until everyone gets what they want out of it.

Yup. And if you're in a company that does Coil, you myth cap very quickly. Before 2.1 I would hit the cap usually by Wednesday evening. Now? I hit the cap Tuesday after Turn 2, because I've already run LotA a few times, did two days of roulette and probably helped a company member with a dungeon of some type at least once or twice.

It basically means I don't queue for endgame 4-player dungeons at all for the rest of the week, and since I always queue as a healer...

[Warlyx]

One thing to keep in mind is that while the levels between 15-49 may be lacking tanks/healers in the DF, at top level there is no real shortage of them. FC's have their core tanks and healers and good DPS is needed

this , why level a tank if u arent going to raid with it because tank slots are taken in every other FC static ?

tanking CT sounds fun ,adds (skeletons ,atomos adds, bombs ect...) oh and towers, touching towers is the reason u have leveled a tank