Look what just happened in Duty !

[Xayoc]

It falls under grief tactics. Looking at the wording in that image, it's certainly grief. You don't kick someone because you think they have low gear, especially with gear requirements in place.

Grief Tactics are considered harassment.

Query: As the majority of the group chose to kick because of insufficient gear and/or skill how is this Grief Tactics?

Statement: During a Garuda EX today the group kicked a WAR because of the fact that an i80 bard pulled hate off of his i85 WAR on Chirada with ease over multiple attempts. The WAR was kicked not out of malicious intent but because the group wanted a win.

Query: How is this in any ways griefing?

Aiming for housing.

Statement: This response is indicative of a high probability of being vote kicked for a similar reason.

Quotation: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

[SpookyGhost]

Statement: During a Garuda EX today the group kicked a WAR because of the fact that an i80 bard pulled hate off of his i85 WAR on Chirada with ease over multiple attempts. The WAR was kicked not out of malicious intent but because the group wanted a win.

For some strange reason, I have a feeling this wasn't the WAR's fault.

[Ri_ri]

Statement: During a Garuda EX today the group kicked a WAR because of the fact that an i80 bard pulled hate off of his i85 WAR on Chirada with ease over multiple attempts. The WAR was kicked not out of malicious intent but because the group wanted a win.

Query: How is this in any ways griefing?

It may have become much easier to obtain enmity but in that fight the tank have to both Provoke the Spiny, take the harpy and position themselves.

If you're blowing all you have before his axe even reaches the harpy, it is not his fault.

[Xayoc]

It may have become much easier to obtain enmity but in that fight the tank have to both Provoke the Spiny, take the harpy and position themselves.

If you're blowing all you have before his axe even reaches the harpy, it is not his fault.

Query: Than how was it that once said WAR was replaced with another WAR Garuda was one-shot?

For some strange reason, I have a feeling this wasn't the WAR's fault.

Observation: The WAR in question had enough time to get provoke then a butcher's block combo off. The bard in question also had used quelling strikes. As stated above, the fight was one-shot once he was vote-kicked.

[Amiantos]

Query: Than how was it that once said WAR was replaced with another WAR Garuda was one-shot?

Maybe the brd didn't go balls to the wall right off like he did with the other WAR? Give a couple seconds to get hate then start going.

[Xayoc]

Maybe the brd didn't go balls to the wall right off like he did with the other WAR? Give a couple seconds to get hate then start going.

Observation: As the bard in question put up more DPS in that kill that is highly unlikely although plausible. However, six attempts were made with the WAR that was kicked and he had the same hate problems for all 6 of them.

Make a premade, you can boot people as you please in those. If it's a DF run, you don't get to decide the skill of the people who join and get to play with you.

Observation: Party finder groups on Sargatanas tend towards being worse than DF PUGs. This one did not decide on the skill of one individual the unanimous consent of the other 7 members did.

[OnpuSegawa]

Observation: As the bard in question put up more DPS in that kill that is highly unlikely although plausible. However, six attempts were made with the WAR that was kicked and he had the same hate problems for all 6 of them.



Observation: Party finder groups on Sargatanas tend towards being worse than DF PUGs. This one did not decide on the skill of one individual the unanimous consent of the other 7 members did.

Man do you always type like a friggin robot?

[Xayoc]

Man do you always type like a friggin robot?

Objection: This one does not type like a robot, it simple works diligently to make sure that its points are very clear.

Look a the live letters where they speak about the vote kick system or look at the letters from the producer, if you are intersted enough you will find them! And why should they be considered a griefer for such reasons !Not all people are good, not all have best skill and they need practise. How will you get better with your job if they keep kicking you of dns how will you feel about it ! Instead of kicking him out why not giving him advice and try to improve his skills together. Then again im saiyng he was not bad he was good tanker.
Its a Duty Finder, you choose it to play with random people, people with different skills and gear and udnerstanding of the game....there is now Party Finder where you can make one play with people with witch you want. And befor patch 2,1 with no party finder you could still make party and invite your type of people in it !

I simply got no words when people do such thing like the once in the the dn i was, i really hope i never see them again !

Observation: The prudent course of action would be to get the practice and not become upset when the majority of a group wishes to finish the content, not wipe again and again at said content until time runs out.

[ispano]

Query: As the majority of the group chose to kick because of insufficient gear and/or skill how is this Grief Tactics?

Statement: During a Garuda EX today the group kicked a WAR because of the fact that an i80 bard pulled hate off of his i85 WAR on Chirada with ease over multiple attempts. The WAR was kicked not out of malicious intent but because the group wanted a win.

Query: How is this in any ways griefing?



Statement: This response is indicative of a high probability of being vote kicked for a similar reason.

Quotation: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Make a premade, you can boot people as you please in those. If it's a DF run, you don't get to decide the skill of the people who join and get to play with you.