gathering in nature

[Dras6fin]

So basically you're now saying the same as me. That gatherers and crafters should not be treated the same as battle classes and instead should have their own content. This is exactly what SE is doing.

I'm starting to see what you are talking about Xenor, until now I couldn't tell if you liked or hated gathering DoL.

1: Truly believe " we take it into consideration" and "its not in the plans" really meaning "Anything is still possible..."

2: Ask the Devs if Gathering Classes (Crafter Classes as well) could cut all ties with Battle in general, then Forging our own path. With gathering/crafting and fighters/mages. We could gather/craft the world new again, its possible think of the possibilities.

3: Ask for separate content each; battle for battle . magic for magic. crafter for crafter. gather for gather. thought we maybe come apart, in the end we still need each other to complete our goals. just like RL.

4: Hope the devs got the message/learned from this Q&A, "More is always better".

5: Quit or Stop playing for awhile

Maybe its still be too soon to tell what is what and maybe I've lost sight of things... but seriously this issue has got me worried I haven't sleep at all.

"Even if you prepared for the worst outcome it still isn't easy to see it happen"

[Kiote]

So basically you're now saying the same as me. That gatherers and crafters should not be treated the same as battle classes and instead should have their own content. This is exactly what SE is doing.

Actually what I said was this game needs independent content for Gatherers. What you said was scrap two major portion of the game. Massive difference. I also believe that while each play style has it's own primary content there is no reason they can't intertwine. DoW/M protect DoL in DoL content and DoL open paths and create obstacles for enemies in DoW/M content. The end goal should be to create a systematic harmony where in these classes are not dependent on one another but benefit on a huge scale from utilizing each others skills.

[RathSkybreaker]

Quality over Quantity...

[RathSkybreaker]

Actually what I said was this game needs independent content for Gatherers. What you said was scrap two major portion of the game. Massive difference. I also believe that while each play style has it's own primary content there is no reason they can't intertwine. DoW/M protect DoL in DoL content and DoL open paths and create obstacles for enemies in DoW/M content. The end goal should be to create a systematic harmony where in these classes are not dependent on one another but benefit on a huge scale from utilizing each others skills.

The only problem I see with this is that if they made the advantage of having a gathering class so...Gargantuan.. which would more than likely be the case, (otherwise why would people do it, aside from sheer fun, but that's something else in itself). it would make it that much harder to form a party in already broken party system. Granted if this was implemented much later on, after the obvious issues are fixed then yes, it would be viable. ATM I think a lot of people are struggling with the idea that the game is broken and they are trying to fix it, thus the lack of content, thus why we are bored. Personally I'm to the point I only log on to handle LS affairs which is sad.

But hey that's just my opinion right? If you enjoy the game then enjoy the game don't let me put a damper on your parade, just realize that we are bitching because we want this game to succeed too.. unless you are a troll then well.. idk piss off ?

[Xenor]

Actually what I said was this game needs independent content for Gatherers. What you said was scrap two major portion of the game.

Nowhere did I say anything like this. Now you're just making shit up. I said crafters and gatherers should not be treated as equals to battle classes. Story missions should not lack challenging content just because gatherers and crafters can't participate. I stand by this and I'm glad it's changing. I never said gatherers need independent content in the post you quoted but I never said they didn't. I have however pushed for it elsewhere. My MIN and BTN are both 44, of course I want more content for them than ranking up.

[Sorel]

So basically you're now saying the same as me. That gatherers and crafters should not be treated the same as battle classes and instead should have their own content. This is exactly what SE is doing.

Separate is not Equal! No Justice, No Peace!! Blacksmith RAGE!!!



Joviality aside ... upon reflection, the concept that Gatherers and Crafters should be able to enjoy and complete the exact same storyline arc as Warriors and Mages was ill-conceived.

I agree with Xenor and others on this thread that, once challenging epic-level content has been established for Warriors and Mages, the Development Team would be extremely wise to create equally epic storyline arcs for Crafters and Gatherers.

Imagine being a Blacksmith during the Industrial Revolution, or a Miner during the North American Gold Rush.

Storyline arcs similar in scope to those would add the desperately wanted "things to do" in the game, breaking the monotony of grinding that many Gatherers and Crafters feel from time to time. They would also allow them to be able to feel like they affect change in the world.

Imagine you are a Botanist, and you become involved in the "Restore the Twelvewood" storyarc where you must find and collect extremely rare seeds from around Eorzea, then find a place where they can be nurtured into saplings, and then safely transport the new saplings to their final rooting in the Twelvewood.

The seeds would be found in various locations. Some from living plants ... some from like-minded Botanist NPCs ... some from the ruins of long lost civilizations. That's at least three quests with 2 cutscenes right there ... just from gathering seeds!!

So yes, there is great potential to make the Gatherers and Crafters truly shine in their own right ... without having to take part in the violence of Warriors and Mages.

[Tiraelina]

Do any of you have any idea how simple it is to make this content? Theres no legitimate bloody excuse for cutting off DoL/H from having their own content This backpedalling BS needs to stop, it's already inconceivable how it takes this long to get anything done after all the engines I've gotten to tear apart.

If they really are having this much difficulty doing anything with the engine they need to scrap the current plans and streamline it. It shouldn't require the skills of an Assembly Wizard to add in a quest or change a static text value.

[Yarr]

What a joke. This isnt a Q&A. Someone explain this to SE.

[Dras6fin]

What a joke. This isnt a Q&A. Someone explain this to SE.

It's not all that bad if you'd take a step back and think about it a little more... SE took the time out of there busy schedule to inform us of what they've currently thinking about; yes it sounds cold like stated as well... really cold but there was some good parts as well. After some time thinking I'm starting to come around again and think its not all set in stone just yet. So all I can say is "give it a little more time" maybe they're clear things up in a few days time.

I haven't ranted for the first time in a while, SE, Devs, Reps, you guys (and gals) are Great really, though omg did it throw a lot us players off "No Main Content" that one hurt.

[Madrox]

"Even though feathers have low value as an item, they are rare and difficult to obtain. Did the developers do this intentionally?
We'll take it into consideration."

LOL