Proposed Crystal Tower Changes (+Dungeon)

[synaesthetic]

The reason they won't do gear tokens is obvious: it would accelerate the speed at which people got gear from LotA to the point where the utilization would go way down before 2.3 adds more dungeon to the dungeon. Squee is doing what they're doing to try to keep all the endgame content as close to 100% utilization as possible because they're strapped for cash.

I suspect SE will give Yoshida some more money to play with if the subs hold after the second round of six month subscriptions get renewed. We can probably look forward to 2.3 being an impressive patch... if people don't get bored and leave before then. Letting FCs take a full premade into LotA will be a big step in keeping the social metagame alive.

[almae]

Hi.. i too feel it is ridiculous that so many loot gets lost, i think it would be nice if they changed it, maybe 2 pieces per week, or make it so that loot is per class? 1 piece per class each week wouldnt be so bad in CT.

[TouchandFeel]

Wasted loot that nobody needs/wants sucks I agree.

However, a more rare but extremely nasty loot occurrence that I have run into is this.
Last chest drops and nobody in your party wants it so they just start leaving the dungeon, leaving you as the last one in there and you haven't hit pass yet.
The loot goes to you automatically and you get locked out for the rest of the week.
Now that is horrible and something that needs to get fixed.

EDIT:

I would like to highlight another problem with the current looting setup in CT. If everybody passes/leaves the instance on Acheron, the remaining player automatically gets stuck with the gear. This happened to me on Tuesday night. I got stuck with a piece of gear I can't even use and locked out of the loot table for the rest of the week. This same looting mechanic applies to all the dungeons but its not usually a problem because you can earn more than 1 piece of gear per week (as long as its not an item you already posess). Obviously this is rediculous. At least give EVERY player the chance to pass if you are going to limit loot to 1 piece per week.

Ah, I see I am not the only one this has happened to.

[Tlamila]

The reason they won't do gear tokens is obvious: it would accelerate the speed at which people got gear from LotA to the point where the utilization would go way down before 2.3 adds more dungeon to the dungeon.

Problem is, there's better gear then taht and easily aquirable without having that before. So rather then keeping people running CT it just makes people end up getting i90 before completing that set, and probably stop running that place anyway. I could understand if it was BiS or something, but it's not. And it's only 5 pieces, if they wanted to keep people doing it I think they should have put accessories too (still wondering why they didn't).

[synaesthetic]

Most people I know aren't running LotA for their primary job, but for either alt jobs, vanity or RP outfits.

[AltaneenXIV]

[*]Combine the BC's weekly lockout and mytho's token system for CT. Grant a player a token for each successful CT run. With enough of these tokens, say 30 tokens, players can purchased a particular CT gear of their choice from NPC at Revenant's Toll just like the mytho gears. The purchase will count towards the weekly limit and these tokens will be reset to nil upon weekly reset. (This run together with the current looting system, meaning we can get random loot from box and purchase chosen loot with tokens)

30 runs a week of CT for i80 gear? No.

It only takes 30 runs of wpsr for the most expensive i90. With CT mixed in + daily roulette it's even less.

I wouldn't mind a token system along with the current system to allow gearing in ILV80 faster, and I wouldn't even mind if it was 30 tokens that you needed, but a weekly reset is insane. I can hardly stand the 8 runs it took to get my Blm body over this week, and the idea of doing 6 runs a day per week makes my eyes bleed. There's not a piece of gear in this game that would drive me to running that 30 times in a week.

All of that said I really wish the 1 loot per week cap was gone, and there have been plenty of ideas floating around that would be decent. I mean, it's kind of absurd that you can get more get more i90 per week than i80.

[Maku]

20 runs just to get my Caster Body. Not because I was lost the lot but because it never showed up. Several runs with various groups where EVERYTHING went to trash. I agree a token system would simply speed up the gear selection way to fast but this was particularly horrible and I have heard many other stories like mine.

[Little_Ifrit]

It's also possible to swap members with other party, which I haven't saw it happening often enough. I had a run once when our bard when over to help out another team that was lacking on DPS. I think we should interact with the other alliance members more often other than just the occasional raising of dead alliance member :/

And while I'm on this, I was hoping provoke and protect work for alliance member as well.

A very good point. 3 DRGs in the party and it never entered out heads to swap with another party. I guess it would be nice for the alliance to work together more. But I find the parties get together more and slam the other parties, instead of their own players, which makes a nice change.

[KRIPTICON]

Wasted loot that nobody needs/wants sucks I agree.

However, a more rare but extremely nasty loot occurrence that I have run into is this.
Last chest drops and nobody in your party wants it so they just start leaving the dungeon, leaving you as the last one in there and you haven't hit pass yet.
The loot goes to you automatically and you get locked out for the rest of the week.
Now that is horrible and something that needs to get fixed.

EDIT:



Ah, I see I am not the only one this has happened to.

There are actually several threads related to this problem. I posted in this particular thread since it seemed to be an over all discussion about the dungeon. While the current looting system in place is understandably frustrating to players, this mechanic in particular desperately needs a fix. Its disapointing that SE didn't have the forethought to realize this was going to be a problem ahead of time.

[SokiYagami]

30 runs a week of CT for i80 gear? No.

It only takes 30 runs of wpsr for the most expensive i90. With CT mixed in + daily roulette it's even less....

Erm... the 30 runs per week are meant for people like me who are trying to get a particular item but failed to do so because RNG god just hate us or we somehow pissed off Hydaelyn unknowingly. So we will be rewarded if we tried enough times, or we can get lucky and got it on the first run. This token system was meant to be run together with the current looting system, meaning we can get random loot from box and/or purchase chosen loot with tokens. Hence I think it will make sense that these tokens should be reset to nil together with the weekly cap, and of course, 30 is just an example amount. I actually run 40 runs this week without getting the monk shirt I want yet