BLM, Extreme Primals, and Surecast "buff" request

[Kyoreore]

Nah, I just know how to play my class. Baddies whining that a BLM needs improvements obviously do not know how to play their class. Roll Melee if you don't know how to effectively manage your instant procs and cooldowns so you can dps while on the go.

^ Couldn't have said it better myself. If you notice your dps dropping in any fight, find ways to work around it and maximize your dps, it doesn't mean the class/job needs a buff. Rarely does it mean that in fact. If you really put in effort, you will know the fight's mechanics/rotations by heart and know exactly when it is safe to cast at all times.

[NeonC]

200 for a BLM in that fight is an accomplishment imo, very difficult and takes a lot knowledge. Like you said drg and brd are getting around 200-220 respectfully while monk and smn I do not have experience with good ones to know.

[agentw00t]

I barely scraped 200 dps in my titan ex win last night. I *did* screw up my rotation at one point but I can't see myself peaking any higher than 220dps for that fight in particular. Certainly not 500. I was full i90, stacking crit and det since you really have no need for acc stack anywhere but bahamut.

I do want to pick your brain a bit about your rotation, because I feel like I'm doing what I can to maximize my damage given his mechanics, and have NO IDEA where I could pull an additional 300 dps from

I don't have a "rotation" Rotations imply that dps is static. BLMs, and I am sure most DPS classes in this game, are dynamic. Think on your feet. Know when and where to be most effective. If any of you have ever played an arms/fury warrior back in the good ole days of WoW, you will understand my discomfort in revealing "tips", "tricks", and comparisons of my play style to other classes. Stop asking for BLM buffs. L2P. inb4 troll.

[T0rin]

Nah, I just know how to play my class. Baddies whining that a BLM needs improvements obviously do not know how to play their class. Roll Melee if you don't know how to effectively manage your instant procs and cooldowns so you can dps while on the go.

Still, you're either a troll or a liar. There is no way you parsed 500+ DPS on an extreme titan fight, or any single target fight. The only way you hit peak 500 DPS (and do 48% of party DPS) would be on some dungeon with a lot to AoE, and even then, only on 1-2 pulls.

I'd be willing to bet that is simple 2 pulls in WP as 22.7k isn't anywhere near a full dungeon. I'm sure as soon as you got to the boss right after you peaked at 500 DPS, it fell off drastically by the time it went down.

[Kenji1134]

Actually I can see someone doing 550 dps on titan as blm, you just fire2 and flare every time a bunch of bombs are up. Especially the 3/4 bombs.

I dont remember my exact numbers, but when I did rotational potency modeling before 2.1, I had a max-ish ST rotation of about 110 pot/sec. And with my damage testing, I have a potency value, in a group with HQ Buttons of 2.6... So that is 286 dps...
Well, last time I parsed on a dummy without a group or food, I was at a bit over 270, so it seems about right. This is with an I90 weapon and I84 overall gear level.

So maybe with all I90, and magically having 100% uptime, a BLM can do 300 dps on Titan, at most... So 550 is completely possible if you just throw aoes every time you see a set of bombs.

[NyneAlexander]

I don't have a "rotation" Rotations imply that dps is static. BLMs, and I am sure most DPS classes in this game, are dynamic. Think on your feet. Know when and where to be most effective. If any of you have ever played an arms/fury warrior back in the good ole days of WoW, you will understand my discomfort in revealing "tips", "tricks", and comparisons of my play style to other classes. Stop asking for BLM buffs. L2P. inb4 troll.

never asked for a blm buff. I do think surecast is kind of garbage, and I did think it would be *cool* to have float, but not at all necessary. Didn't start the thread. And just thought that since 500 sustained dps seems to be kind of an anomaly, that you wouldn't mind sharing some tips. But if you want to keep your trade secrets for profit or whatever, thats fine man. Seeing how I'm clearing extremes, BC, etc, I feel confident that i've "learned to play". But whatever, to each their pwn.

[NyneAlexander]

Actually I can see someone doing 550 dps on titan as blm, you just fire2 and flare every time a bunch of bombs are up. Especially the 3/4 bombs.

I dont remember my exact numbers, but when I did rotational potency modeling before 2.1, I had a max-ish ST rotation of about 110 pot/sec. And with my damage testing, I have a potency value, in a group with HQ Buttons of 2.6... So that is 286 dps...
Well, last time I parsed on a dummy without a group or food, I was at a bit over 270, so it seems about right. This is with an I90 weapon and I84 overall gear level.

So maybe with all I90, and magically having 100% uptime, a BLM can do 300 dps on Titan, at most... So 550 is completely possible if you just throw aoes every time you see a set of bombs.

so yes, by AoEing all of the inconsequential bombs that you should be dodging anyways, you can hit 500 dps. Am I reading this right?

[T0rin]

so yes, by AoEing all of the inconsequential bombs that you should be dodging anyways, you can hit 500 dps. Am I reading this right?

In theory.

I still think the guy is trolling with some screenshot he got from the first 3 minutes of Wanderer's Palace.

In reality, you would never spend your time flaring bombs during Ex Titan. In reality, you would never have 48% of party DPS in an 8 man encounter. In reality, you would never complete Ex Titan having done only 22k damage. In reality, people just post nonsense to get attention.

[agentw00t]

In theory.

I still think the guy is trolling with some screenshot he got from the first 3 minutes of Wanderer's Palace.

In reality, you would never spend your time flaring bombs during Ex Titan. In reality, you would never have 48% of party DPS in an 8 man encounter. In reality, you would never complete Ex Titan having done only 22k damage. In reality, people just post nonsense to get attention.

Cool story bro. My dps on trash is usually between 1200 - 1600. I got up to 1600dps on Binding coil turn 4 with raging strikes and a lot of luck. I wish I had a screenshot, but alas, I run FFXIV App on my 2nd monitor, and screenshots only snap the FFXIV game, not the other monitor. The first pic I uploaded was taken with my phone. Next week I will try to grab better screenshots.

[JetBrooks]

screenshots only snap the FFXIV game, not the other monitor.

Select desired application, alt+PrtScn. Takes a snapshot of only the selected window.