Why is Myth gear as good as Allagan gear, or even better?

[Brises]

The answer is simple it's a business move. We have people who are dedicated to this game because they have more free time and they can achieve coil gear. Now in order to keep casual players feeling like they are not far behind the hard core players they give them gear as well. Other wise a casual won't feel like he can ever catch up because he doesn't have 12 hours a day to play. And if he feels like he can't catch up he will quit. And quiting means no sub's and no sub's means no money for square.

Exactly this. There are quite a few players who can't or aren't interested in doing coil. If there was nothing comparable for them to achieve by different ways, why would they play? Hardcores would say, "then they shouldn't be playing anyway." But SE disagrees. They want to continue selling games and subs to these people. Like it or not, SE is a business, and they want to sell to the broadest number of customers possible. And that is their choice to make.

[gadenp]

Exactly this. There are quite a few players who can't or aren't interested in doing coil. If there was nothing comparable for them to achieve by different ways, why would they play? Hardcores would say, "then they shouldn't be playing anyway." But SE disagrees. They want to continue selling games and subs to these people. Like it or not, SE is a business, and they want to sell to the broadest number of customers possible. And that is their choice to make.

This hits it straight on the nail. For reasons unbounded by logical many people cannot accept that. Oh I am sure people can dream up extremely logically sounding arguments that sound logical and all that. But nothing that hold any water if one views the argument from all sides and all angles without any preconceived notions.

[Felis]

Alternative gearing routes.

Nobody wants to do just coil for BiS gear once a week.

Also, Myth gear can be obtained without doing endgame dungeons so casuals can gear up.

Best to have a few options for gearing up instead of a single path.

Would it not be better to put also crafted gear to the ilevel90 list? It would also be a alternative gearing route, casuals don't need to do endgame dungeons for it and crafters would have something to do again.

[homunyan]

Alternative gearing routes.

Nobody wants to do just coil for BiS gear once a week.

Also, Myth gear can be obtained without doing endgame dungeons so casuals can gear up.

Best to have a few options for gearing up instead of a single path.

Gear up for what? If you're not raiding then why do you need to gear up at all? Also even if that's true its completely assinine that as a scholar, there is only one single item in turns 1-4 that's actually best in slot, for everything else myth gear is better.

[Cubester]

Gear up for what? If you're not raiding then why do you need to gear up at all? Also even if that's true its completely assinine that as a scholar, there is only one single item in turns 1-4 that's actually best in slot, for everything else myth gear is better.

How about gearing up for fun? I don't do Coil at the moment, so do I need ilvl 90? No. Do I want ilvl 90 because it looks cool? Yes.
Is it anyone's business why I want to gear up? No.

[Sygmaelle]

Coils up to turn 4 < Titan Ex so I don't know what the heck you guys are smokin but it's some good shit, can I haz some ? Since the release of the game pretty much every class need to do a mix of gear between allagan and myth, so, point of the thread ?

[ZohnoReecho]

Would it not be better to put also crafted gear to the ilevel90 list? It would also be a alternative gearing route, casuals don't need to do endgame dungeons for it and crafters would have something to do again.

that would just doom the current events and give one or more reasons to buy gil.

[Sapphic]

Coils up to turn 4 < Titan Ex so I don't know what the heck you guys are smokin but it's some good shit, can I haz some ? Since the release of the game pretty much every class need to do a mix of gear between allagan and myth, so, point of the thread ?

I find turn 1 and 2 easier than Titan HM XD as the only insta kill mechanic is Rot which can be bypassed with enrage tactic. So the allowance for a mistake is greater than Titan HM.

Turn 1 and 2 can be learnt and beaten easily. So thats the potential of 4 drops in one run. Myth pieces would take 4 weeks.

One change I'd like to see with Coil is to add a boss encounter to turn 3 and move some, if not all the armor drops from Twintania to that turn. As it makes it, imo, pretty unfair that for certain jobs a large part of their drops are on Twintania whereas others can gear up easier on turns one, two and four.

[KHShadowrunner]

I'm still confused. highest level gear still drops from highest level content. Pretty sure that's all she wrote. This was pre 2.1, and phasing it out post 2.1 sounds even more silly. Like so, it's scaled appropriately.

System is fine, all is well.

[Versiroth]

Gear up for what? If you're not raiding then why do you need to gear up at all? Also even if that's true its completely assinine that as a scholar, there is only one single item in turns 1-4 that's actually best in slot, for everything else myth gear is better.

Gearing up helps with more than just raiding. It makes getting myth each week much more enjoyable as well. When I first started running WP/AK with my Warrior, keeping Aggro and staying alive was difficult at times. Now that I have my Relic and some myth/the rest DL, I can cap my Myth quickly and then do what I really enjoy, which is leveling alt classes.