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  1. #21
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    Mags's Avatar
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    Mag Cotti
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    Louisoix
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    It's their party, it's their rules for joining really. I understand they may be aiming to overshoot the content, or even ensure players have the metal to meet the challenge of the content they are seeking. But none the less that's how they want to do it. Nothing wrong with it if people are willing and are able to meet the demands they have set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvbunny View Post
    What we suffer is "the curse of knowledge". For new people, most of the dungeons after level 24 is considered "intense". For us, we just don't understand why newbies do not "get the mechanic" when everything is spelled out for you right in front of your screen... For them Brayflox is HARD ("you want me to Esuna all of you? move out of the way? and cure three people???), Sunken Temple is "ZOMG WTF was that", Cutter's Cry was "intense" and Titan "baby trial" was "fck this, I swear I ran and out of the train track from hell".

  2. #22
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    Arkista's Avatar
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    There's been a couple people on my server who is putting CT ilvl up pass ilvl78.
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  3. #23
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    Empressia's Avatar
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    Character
    Carnage Incarnate
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    sure OP have fun joining titan hm in party finder with ilvl requirements of sub 60, theres nothing better than carrying those newbies who doesn't have a clue of how the fight goin on amirite?
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  4. #24
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    Jubez187's Avatar
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    Arant Aleite
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Lodestone GD 101: Lesson - Hypocrisy

    > "This game is an easy joke, stupid hotbar MMO, worse battle system than 2010 WoW clones."
    -Random Guy

    > Sick of unskilled scrubs trying to get me to carry them in EM Primals and Coil
    -The Same Random Guy
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  5. #25
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    SarcasmMisser's Avatar
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    People can make whatever rules they want for their groups, if you don't like it join another or make your own. Be the change you want to see.
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  6. #26
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by duc015 View Post
    Devs should update the party finder so either the party leader can't set an ilevel above their own
    Definitely this. It makes perfect sense. :3

    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    People can make whatever rules they want for their groups, if you don't like it join another or make your own. Be the change you want to see.
    At the moment, the ilv requirement is a sort of "promise" that "if I join this, I'd be playing with people at least of this ilv". However, if the leader of the group is exempt from this requirement, then it breaks this promise that the system is making.

    I see it as a dev oversight.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skotie View Post
    Unlikely to happen considering how much of a handicap people seem to need to succeed at anything even slightly challenging in this game.
    lol'd



    /tennnnn
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  8. #28
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    Kadrothan's Avatar
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    Character
    Silvynna Darklore
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    On topic: I personally agree that the ilvl requirement set by the creator shouldn't exceed past his/her own average ilvl. It makes sense and would be fair to the people joining up said PF group.

    Off topic on ilvl: My thoughts runs along the lines that content can certainly be completed at the minimum ilvl, but you have to be spot on to the T with all the mechanics. Very little, if any, room for error. The higher you shoot above the average ilvl, the greater the margin of error for most mechanics (notice I said most, and not all). i.e. Faster completion times for dps checks, greater capacity to soak up damage, healers can heal for more, etc. Asking for ilvl 78 in a minimum ilvl 50 is just asking for an easy run with 0 challenge.
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  9. #29
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    Dano's Avatar
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    Danorille Pandemonium
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 61
    its easy to bypass the ilvl check, just equip ilvl90 accessories (even if it's not for your class), join into the party, then switch back.
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  10. #30
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Well just because the system can be cheated, doesn't mean we shouldn't work towards improving the system.

    Forcing an iLv check every time the setting is changed will work towards improving the system.
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    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

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