Proposed Crystal Tower Changes (+Dungeon)

[Melinia]

My group last night had *FOUR* black mages in it. One of the other groups in the alliance had none. Why couldn't the mages have been more evenly distributed around the alliance? Of the four drops we received, one was for dragoons, and another for bards. Better diversity among the parties in Labyrinth would be good both for the individual fights (Atomos with four monks...?), and for ensuring that gear drops end up where they're needed.


Last week, I completed a run as the only Summoner in my alliance party. We had the Crimson Boots drop, which I needed and won. Then the Crimson Robes dropped, which I couldn't roll on. Those rotted. What would be nice is to have a mechanism in place so that if you've already won your loot item for the week, and something drops that your current job can wear, you can roll Greed - but your roll defaults to a zero. That way, the item doesn't rot. But if *anyone* else wants it, they'll get priority over you.

[Tlamila]

My group last night had *FOUR* black mages in it. One of the other groups in the alliance had none. Why couldn't the mages have been more evenly distributed around the alliance? Of the four drops we received, one was for dragoons, and another for bards. Better diversity among the parties in Labyrinth would be good both for the individual fights (Atomos with four monks...?), and for ensuring that gear drops end up where they're needed.

Atomos with three/four monks/dragoons. That's what I've seen everytime lately, it's very frustrating. I thought it was just because now that those classes are buffed everybody plays them, but if you talk me about 4black mages...eh.
On topic, making everybody want to play melees and introducing a new battle that requires ranged...doesn't seem quite well thought.

[Claire_Pendragon]

Atomos with three/four monks/dragoons. That's what I've seen everytime lately, it's very frustrating. I thought it was just because now that those classes are buffed everybody plays them, but if you talk me about 4black mages...eh.
On topic, making everybody want to play melees and introducing a new battle that requires ranged...doesn't seem quite well thought.

No one realizes you dont need to actually attack atomos, until all his adds are dead. then he just sits there, and everyone can go fight him.

So if the tanks pull back, the melee can beat on the adds all they want.

[Little_Ifrit]

Atomos with three/four monks/dragoons. That's what I've seen everytime lately, it's very frustrating. I thought it was just because now that those classes are buffed everybody plays them, but if you talk me about 4black mages...eh.
On topic, making everybody want to play melees and introducing a new battle that requires ranged...doesn't seem quite well thought.

I was in a party yesterday with 3 dragoons. I was one of them. We blitzed through Atomos and all other bosses. On Atamos, one just had to hang back on the platform and killed adds while myself and the other killed Atomos. Its not a problem!

And the loot dropping for classes that aren't in your party - didn't we all have this discussion months ago but it was the primal fights then. It drops for classes that aren't in your party - suck it up, run it again!

[Tlamila]

I was in a party yesterday with 3 dragoons. I was one of them. We blitzed through Atomos and all other bosses. On Atamos, one just had to hang back on the platform and killed adds while myself and the other killed Atomos. Its not a problem!

Problem is if to drag adds to melees reach you have all the aoes nuking people on the platform. I rather go cleric stance and kill them before they get near :P After all that fight requires almost no healing, especially if you can prevent the aoes getting to people.

This go together with the current loot. Meaning we can either get random loot from the box, or purchase the one we like after running it X number of times.

Then it's all another story, I'm totally for it!

[SokiYagami]

I was in a party yesterday with 3 dragoons. I was one of them. We blitzed through Atomos and all other bosses. On Atamos, one just had to hang back on the platform and killed adds while myself and the other killed Atomos. Its not a problem!

And the loot dropping for classes that aren't in your party - didn't we all have this discussion months ago but it was the primal fights then. It drops for classes that aren't in your party - suck it up, run it again!

It's also possible to swap members with other party, which I haven't saw it happening often enough. I had a run once when our bard when over to help out another team that was lacking on DPS. I think we should interact with the other alliance members more often other than just the occasional raising of dead alliance member :/

And while I'm on this, I was hoping provoke and protect work for alliance member as well.

[Little_Ifrit]

It's also possible to swap members with other party, which I haven't saw it happening often enough. I had a run once when our bard when over to help out another team that was lacking on DPS. I think we should interact with the other alliance members more often other than just the occasional raising of dead alliance member :/

And while I'm on this, I was hoping provoke and protect work for alliance member as well.

A very good point. 3 DRGs in the party and it never entered out heads to swap with another party. I guess it would be nice for the alliance to work together more. But I find the parties get together more and slam the other parties, instead of their own players, which makes a nice change.