SE we don't need to face target to Heal!!

[reckless76]

Wait a minute.. You mean you don't have to face your target to heal them? I can just turn off auto-face and my char will stop spinning like an idiot and make we walk off cliffs? Awesome.

[Sushi]

this problem will emerge when more and more people going to PVP

i don't think healers only heal when they PVP. They will have to sleep, dot or doing damage and heal during PVP.
Anyone who like character based mode will have to make macros because of this.


thanks to all who give your advice. but I just want SE to know they can change this easily by altering their program and many players can benefit

[Dale]

Every time when I run a dungeon I have to change my setting of auto
face target when casting. It's annoying. Please we don't need to face the target to heal.
When I'm running away from AOE or the mobs I need to keep running and heal.
I don't want to suddenly face back because I healed someone, and resulting running backward and running into an AOE and get killed.

Change the "facing target while casting" and make it apply only to DPS please!

God yes, this is so annoying.

Casting should not require you to be staring in direct line of sight of your target. It's irritating as all get out, and our character should have the basic ability to turn his head while casting.

[Sushi]

God yes, this is so annoying.

Casting should not require you to be staring in direct line of sight of your target. It's irritating as all get out, and our character should have the basic ability to turn his head while casting.

That's right, if they allow you be able to turn your head away a little more when casting, we can solve all these issues. Then I don't need to turn on auto-facing at all.

Also it feels a little bit like cheating when you have the auto-facing function on during PVP, since your opponent can run around you to stop you from casting a spell on him, but if you have auto-facing then that trick won't work.

[Strawberrycream]

Well, game/story-wise I think facing a target to heal makes sense. Our healers aren't all-powerful in knowing where everyone is all the time. It is not like your character has their back to the party and throws out a heal bouquet and hopes the right person catches it. So facing a target for a heal seems logical in the fact that your character is acknowledging the location of who they are healing. Mechanics-wise, I see how this can be annoying for non-legacy users.

As far as legacy mode, I have helped a few people in using it and the common problem I found they had was actually their movement keybinds. Forward, Back, and strafe can stay the same in both legacy and character based movement. However, the turning needs to be changed. In legacy, you need to change your left and right character turns to left and right camera turns. Perhaps that is causing your dizziness or maybe your camera turn speed. (I'm just guessing since you stated you had no problem with legacy in FFXI). If you haven't tried those see if that helps. I know it isn't the solution you want, but perhaps it can help.

[Sushi]

I did a little more thinking, this problem is complicated.

should SE allow us to dot the opponent in any direction?
let's say they give us wider angle to cast spells on the opponent which means we don't need to face directly to opponent to cast spells as long as the opponent is in front of the caster.
but for dots, the spells that don't have casting time, should they allow us to run in a random direction while casting on enemy, if we don't turn on auto-facing.

[Sushi]

As far as legacy mode, I have helped a few people in using it and the common problem I found they had was actually their movement keybinds. Forward, Back, and strafe can stay the same in both legacy and character based movement. However, the turning needs to be changed. In legacy, you need to change your left and right character turns to left and right camera turns. Perhaps that is causing your dizziness or maybe your camera turn speed. (I'm just guessing since you stated you had no problem with legacy in FFXI). If you haven't tried those see if that helps. I know it isn't the solution you want, but perhaps it can help.

thx I will try it.

[Sushi]

I think a bit more...

what is the purpose of auto-facing? nice looking or what?

with auto-facing, we don't need the skill to face the opponent manually anymore in PVE and PVP,
and it gives a glitch whenever you are running away from your opponent or AoE while casting instant spells.

in ffxi we didn't need to face the opponent to cast any spells and now in ffxiv we do. why? if facing the enemy to cast a spell make the battle more fun and well-estabilshed then why not just make it more fun and let us manually facing the enemy
In other words, if your intent is to make us to become skillful players then why use auto-facing and make it easier?
To me, auto-facing target to cast a spell equals facing in any direction to cast the spell on the opponent plus a glitch which will affect your moving direction.
This is like self-cheating, did I actually "face" the enemy? no i didn't cuz I didn't press the button. but hey look the computer did it for me but with a little cost that is the glitch. Now I look like I'm facing the enemy, and it seems like I obey the rule of facing enemy while casting.

[Elvisan]

As a matter of fact, yes!

and I don't need to change setting or make macros because of this when I play WOW, so yes I'm asking SE to change this. if you have any objection make another thread to say SE plz don't make any change.

Maybe in your eyes, I'm lazy. However in my opinion, the best solution is for SE to make a change, not their customers.
A good programer should make his program suit users' convenience, not the reverse.

First off, never say "In WoW, I could...", because that only invokes the answer "Well, then go to WoW and do that.".
Thing is, I and many or most people have no problem, you have settings and tools at your disposal to deal with this as you see fit. That tells me it already is tuned well enough to be convenient for customers, slap the programers all you want, but it will just make you look angry.
Maybe you should just explore and try out the possibilities instead of asking for fix of what isn't broken, because you see, line of sight is a mechanic, not a bug or poor programming.

[Sushi]

First off, never say "In WoW, I could...", because that only invokes the answer "Well, then go to WoW and do that.".
Thing is, I and many or most people have no problem, you have settings and tools at your disposal to deal with this as you see fit. That tells me it already is tuned well enough to be convenient for customers, slap the programers all you want, but it will just make you look angry.
Maybe you should just explore and try out the possibilities instead of asking for fix of what isn't broken, because you see, line of sight is a mechanic, not a bug or poor programming.

I think you don't know what I am talking about... and I don't want to explain more. The rest of the work and thinking SE should do. I'm done. btw: I didn't say I won't try out, I'm just presenting the problem to SE and whoever is interested in looking into this problem.