If you are a WHM without Swiftcast, you are holding back your team at endgame

[Amyas]

the healer did not cause a wipe in that scenario, the player that refused to dodge did - if you blamed the healer in my group in that scenario, then we would be replacing you as well as the player that refused to dodge...

I don't blame anyone for anything in game, but saying its not the healer's fault for causing a wipe by not healing and not raising is just incorrect. Healers are supposed to heal and raise mid-battle you know... that is their role ffs...



ps why is someone with no healing class leveled even here?

[Shizato]

I don't blame anyone for anything in game, but saying its not the healer's fault for causing a wipe by not healing and not raising is just incorrect. Healers are supposed to heal and raise mid-battle you know...

no, healers are not supposed to ensure their groups win by covering for the failures of their group no matter how much you want this to be true

[Doo]

no, healers are not supposed to ensure their groups win by covering for the failures of their group no matter how much you want this to be true

Yeah that's more of a definition of team play rather than healer role. Players are suppose to help each other out and do everything they can to help the team win. Like if a dd or healer accidentally aggros a boss, it's not the tanks role to get the add of them cuz the other players messed up but it would be a nice team play gesture.

[Shizato]

Yeah that's more of a definition of team play rather than healer role. Players are suppose to help each other out and do everything they can to help the team win.

no, team play IS NOT covering for each others failures to ensure a win - team play IS not failing your team in order to secure a win - is it OK to cover for each others failures to ensure a win? of course, just like charity is OK but you dont expect nor require charity, either...

[Doo]

no, team play IS NOT covering for each others failures to ensure a win - team play IS not failing your team in order to secure a win - is it OK to cover for each others failures to ensure a win? of course, just like charity is OK but you dont expect nor require charity, either...

Doesn't makes sense at all I'm sure you die often before during the learning process and you wouldn't call it charity.

[Shizato]

Doesn't makes sense at all I'm sure you die often before during the learning process and you wouldn't call it charity.

yes, the player who resses me when i fail to dodge and die is covering for my failure, and if we win its because of their charity, but if we lose when they dont res me its because of me failing to dodge and dying...

its really simple, i assure you...

[Doo]

yes, the player who resses me when i fail to dodge and die is covering for my failure, and if we win its because of their charity, but if we lose when they dont res me its because of me failing to dodge and dying...

its really simple, i assure you...

It's simple because it's some messed up logic.

[Artemiz]

yes, the player who resses me when i fail to dodge and die is covering for my failure, and if we win its because of their charity, but if we lose when they dont res me its because of me failing to dodge and dying...

its really simple, i assure you...

I just can't understand this twisted elitism, what you're saying is it's perfectly ok for you to not do the easy thing (FATE's/low level dungeons) to get Swiftcast but to make up for that everyone else has to be flawless at all times, everytime even in the toughest content.

Consider my melon twisted.

Also doing your job is not charity, it's ya know, doing your job.

[Amyas]

Yeah that's more of a definition of team play rather than healer role. Players are suppose to help each other out and do everything they can to help the team win. Like if a dd or healer accidentally aggros a boss, it's not the tanks role to get the add of them cuz the other players messed up but it would be a nice team play gesture.

Just put it on ignore, this one isn't interested in conversations as to why a healer would want SC. It just wants to be bad while thinking its good with its own form of elitism.
Again, the mental gymnastics baddies go through to be 'right' is astonishing.

[Shizato]

Just put it on ignore, this one isn't interested in conversations as to why a healer would want SC. It just wants to be bad while thinking its good with its own form of elitism.
Again, the mental gymnastics baddies go through to be 'right' is astonishing.

says the player who wants to blame a wipe on someone who ACTUALLY dodged...mk...you go with that then