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  1. #371
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    Tiraelina's Avatar
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    Tiraelina Kyara
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    I think there's a bit too much focus on Swiftcast raises and/or incapability of thinking outside the box.

    Swiftcast makes any spell instant every 60 seconds with no downside. There's far more uses than just raising someone.
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  2. #372
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    Ti Dus
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I refuse to swiftly raise ppl who refuse to learn how to dodge.
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  3. #373
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    KenzieLynch's Avatar
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    Kenzie Lynch
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 50
    All I got was from OP was that he or his group die a lot.
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  4. #374
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    Seig345's Avatar
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 66
    I like the people saying that if they have to use something that was programmed into the game... someone else is doing something wrong.

    Whm is my favorite job, I sure as heck wish I was incapable of ever making a mistake and never needing to use raise and being able to chew out anyone who dies, safe in the knowledge that it couldn't possibly have been my fault, or, Twelve forbid, part of playing the game...
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    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

  5. #375
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    Doo's Avatar
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    Buster Posey
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    We got some leet players that never make mistakes. If that's the case then yeah Swift cast isn't needed because only others mess up never themselves.
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  6. #376
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    Amyas's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Amyas Leigh
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ti_Dus View Post
    I refuse to swiftly raise ppl who refuse to learn how to dodge.
    So you'd possibly cause a wipe because you're too good to raise someone?

    Just go play a single player game already. This thread is just like the 'healers should dps' thread, so many baddies coming on here using some crazy mental gymnastics and elitism to justify being bad. Crazy.
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  7. #377
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    Shizato's Avatar
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    Carpe Diem
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    Excalibur
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    Miner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
    So you'd possibly cause a wipe because you're too good to raise someone?

    Just go play a single player game already. This thread is just like the 'healers should dps' thread, so many baddies coming on here using some crazy mental gymnastics and elitism to justify being bad. Crazy.
    the player that refused to SC+Rez the player that refused to learn to dodge did not cause a wipe in that scenario, the player that refused to learn to dodge did - if you blamed the player that refused to SW+Rez the player who refused to learn to dodge in my group in that scenario, then we would be replacing you as well as the player that refused to learn to dodge...
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    Last edited by Shizato; 12-31-2013 at 09:21 AM.

  8. #378
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    Amyas Leigh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizato View Post
    the healer did not cause a wipe in that scenario, the player that refused to dodge did - if you blamed the healer in my group in that scenario, then we would be replacing you as well as the player that refused to dodge...
    I don't blame anyone for anything in game, but saying its not the healer's fault for causing a wipe by not healing and not raising is just incorrect. Healers are supposed to heal and raise mid-battle you know... that is their role ffs...



    ps why is someone with no healing class leveled even here?
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    Last edited by Amyas; 12-31-2013 at 09:23 AM.

  9. #379
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    Miner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
    I don't blame anyone for anything in game, but saying its not the healer's fault for causing a wipe by not healing and not raising is just incorrect. Healers are supposed to heal and raise mid-battle you know...

    no, healers are not supposed to ensure their groups win by covering for the failures of their group no matter how much you want this to be true
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  10. #380
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    Buster Posey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizato View Post
    no, healers are not supposed to ensure their groups win by covering for the failures of their group no matter how much you want this to be true
    Yeah that's more of a definition of team play rather than healer role. Players are suppose to help each other out and do everything they can to help the team win. Like if a dd or healer accidentally aggros a boss, it's not the tanks role to get the add of them cuz the other players messed up but it would be a nice team play gesture.
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    Last edited by Doo; 12-31-2013 at 09:27 AM.

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