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    Pesmergia Unknown
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    Behemoth
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    Punishing the wrong people.

    With the 30 minute debuff on leaving the dungeon party. The reason people leave is because the party sucks. Not because the party is good. And at least 75% of the time it is not the person leaving.

    Why even increase the timer? Dumb idea.
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    Zetsumei Tsunarashi
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    The whole point of the timer is to discourage people from ragequiting just because the party sucks.

    It's supposed to make you stick with it, learn to work together and fix your mistakes.
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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    The whole point of the timer is to discourage people from ragequiting just because the party sucks.

    It's supposed to make you stick with it, learn to work together and fix your mistakes.
    If the mistakes aren't yours, you can't fix them. You can try to help others, but you can't force them to get better. I just eat the 30 minutes in those cases.
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    They are going to be adding a group-wide "give up" option in the next patch that will not penalize you, so hopefully that will help and hopefully it doesn't need everyone to accept.

    The whole point of the timer is to discourage people from ragequiting just because the party sucks.

    It's supposed to make you stick with it, learn to work together and fix your mistakes.
    It's not fun timing out when someone just isn't getting it.
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    Last edited by Estellios; 12-30-2013 at 09:42 AM.

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    Liliha Liha
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    People like the one who made this thread is the reason the punishment mechanism is there in the first place.

    The duty finders (and especially the story/low level duty roulettes) are there to help those lower level people to overcome the obstacles in front of them. They're not there for you to trample all over the first timers so you get to your next philo/mytho piece of gear 3% faster.
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    Last edited by Moontide; 12-30-2013 at 06:55 PM.

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    If I join a PuG via the Duty Finder I accept that I might very well be getting myself into an inexperienced or otherwise unsuccessful group. If you're going to quit on half the people you're randomly thrown in with, stop using the Duty Finder.
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    I just got the 30 minute hit for being the THIRD person to leave. Bull.
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    Gulvak Garamonde
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    If the mistakes aren't yours, you can't fix them. You can try to help others, but you can't force them to get better. I just eat the 30 minutes in those cases.
    Sure you can. You can fix plenty of mistakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pesmergia View Post
    With the 30 minute debuff on leaving the dungeon party. The reason people leave is because the party sucks. Not because the party is good. And at least 75% of the time it is not the person leaving.

    Why even increase the timer? Dumb idea.
    This is why you make a premade group and enter the dungeon, so you dont get the lockout............dont complain just because you dont get everything you want, learn to use stuff to your advantage instead
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    The only thing i hope they'll fix is allowing people to leave without penalty when the time is running short, let say 5-8 minutes left.
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