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  1. #181
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    Worm's Avatar
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    Gulvak Garamonde
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    Coeurl
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Slambo View Post
    If I'm casting raise YOU are doing it wrong. you show me a fight with a guaranteed 1 shot to someone (every time) and I'll agree with you though.
    So I take it you don't put out heals to people who get hit by avoidable damage?
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  2. #182
    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Kicking Wolf
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Pages of people showing they don't know that swiftcast works for things other than raise.

    GG baddies
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  3. #183
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    Purrfectstorm's Avatar
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    Purrfect Storm
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    I think it makes sense to get to level 50 before getting Swiftcast. However, I agree with the OP that you should have it for endgame stuff. I won't expect healers doing dungeons like WP to have Swiftcast but for AK and beyond, there's certainly no excuse.
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  4. #184
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    Taris9047's Avatar
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    Liliath Sunreaver
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    Brynhildr
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm View Post
    I think it makes sense to get to level 50 before getting Swiftcast. However, I agree with the OP that you should have it for endgame stuff. I won't expect healers doing dungeons like WP to have Swiftcast but for AK and beyond, there's certainly no excuse.
    All the unavoidable AOE damages has intervals and fixed patterns. Thus, you can just predict it and pre-cast heals, use damage mitigation skills, or ready emergency heals like Lustrate and Benediction for key members.

    If Swiftcast is required, something already went wrong. Also, wasting Swiftcast on Raise or Ressurection is a complete waste since revival debuff is already affecting the raised person. Especially on hard fights, it is better to restart.
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  5. #185
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    Wilbow's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Wolff Umbra
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    1000 characters, and so many points to make...

    1) WHM should HAVE Swiftcast, for insta-raise but ALSO for instant Stoneskin/Medica I&II/Cure II&III. I'm looking at you, four airship crashing phase of Ultima's Bane while ten magitek bits are locking on to me, or Siren debuff with 1 second left.

    2) Shit happens in a fight, and even people who are otherwise really good can make mistakes and die. However, DPS should NOT use a WHM not having Swiftcast as the reason a run failed -- you're the idiot who got hit.

    3) Also, why the hell is it "WHM without Swiftcast"? Last I checked, at least SCH/SMN should be included too. Hell, why isn't SMN the FIRST choice for insta-rezzing here -- it's not like you CARE about mana, but as your healer, I HAVE TO CARE ABOUT MINE. Stop waving your damage meter epeen around, give up a single Ruin, and raise somebody for the group's (i.e. yours too) sake.
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    Last edited by Wilbow; 12-29-2013 at 04:41 PM.

  6. #186
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    SarcasmMisser's Avatar
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Taris9047 View Post
    If Swiftcast is required, something already went wrong. Also, wasting Swiftcast on Raise or Ressurection is a complete waste since revival debuff is already affecting the raised person. Especially on hard fights, it is better to restart.
    Good thing nothing ever goes wrong ever right? You can recover from deaths even on EX primals, I've seen it done but with that attitude you have eliminated any chance of it, and potentially been the real cause of a wipe. It's a quitter attitude and it isn't a good attitude to have. If there is something you could of done then by the love of god do it and be a better person than the dead people who aren't doing their job.
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  7. #187
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    ValorSekari's Avatar
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    Character
    Ren Ackerman
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    Faerie
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    White Mage Lv 80
    As much as im not going to have fun leveling a thm i guess i have no other choice but to get it for the best :/
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    Last edited by ValorSekari; 12-29-2013 at 04:57 PM.

  8. #188
    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Kicking Wolf
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    I love these "get good" people. Funny that so many server first Twintannia/primals feature a player being insta raised.

    Oh and the world first video for Twintania... yeah those guys suck so much that two of them got raised.
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  9. #189
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    SarcasmMisser's Avatar
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Agreed, BG should of given up and called it a wipe. Those healers aren't playing right, they swiftcast raised. They should of instead given the others a lecture about dodging stuff.
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  10. #190
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    Valega Kazenoko
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    Excalibur
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    Fisher Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Taris9047 View Post
    If Swiftcast is required, something already went wrong. Also, wasting Swiftcast on Raise or Ressurection is a complete waste since revival debuff is already affecting the raised person. Especially on hard fights, it is better to restart.
    Maybe something did go wrong but sometimes things do and swiftcast can mean the difference between a recovery and a restart.
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