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  1. #171
    Player
    Edellis's Avatar
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    Ixora Lepta
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    Zalera
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    Archer Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Noroi_Kisaragi View Post
    A swiftcasted raise is probably the most useful thing a white mage could possibly do at Endgame, among the many other uses for Swiftcast. Yet almost everysingle time I go into DF, the White Mage never has Swiftcast, and we wipe. Everytime the WHM does have swiftcast, we win, coincidence? I think not.

    You should not be healing endgame with a WHM at all until you learn Swiftcast. If you don't know this ability, you are holding back your team. Does anybody else agree? Is Swiftcast a vitally important ability for a White Mage to have? What are your thoughts?
    Your reasoning is pretty terrible. You forcing the WHM to cast Raise is the reason why you're wiping. Not the WHM's inability to cover your mistakes fast enough to stop the rest of your teammates from dying.

    I do agree that it's too important an ability to not have endgame though.
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  2. #172
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    Amyas's Avatar
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    Amyas Leigh
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Davionx View Post
    Paying attention to scripts with blatant ranges given to you in red is too difficult so u should rez me asap cause I'm super important even tho I can't follow scripts. Signed bad/lazy DPS/OT
    Honestly if you *can't* raise asap then you're a bad/lazy healer/smn... if you want to go that route.
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  3. #173
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    Ricky's Avatar
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    Character
    Azran Hayat
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    If in a bad group, Swiftcast Raise is great
    If in a good group, Swiftcast aoe heals can be great

    Either way if you are a healer without Swiftcast you need to get it
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  4. #174
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    myahele's Avatar
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    Tonrak Totorak
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Swiftcast seems to be a good skill to have. Whm have presence of mind which increases spell speed, but has a very ling cool down (5min I think)

    I am leveling a thm to 26 just to get it.
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  5. #175
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    Davion Crismorn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Amyas View Post
    Honestly if you *can't* raise asap then you're a bad/lazy healer/smn... if you want to go that route.
    Yet I didn't die to the script. Try again.
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  6. #176
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    Character
    Kaya Solimar
    World
    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Swiftcast isn't absolutely necessary for endgame, however i don't see a reason NOT to get it other than laziness or an extreme lack of time. THM to 26 is stupid easy. ACN to 34 for e4e is a tad more annoying i must admit.
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  7. #177
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Moirear View Post
    Why just WHM? IMHO, if you are any DoM without Swiftcast, you are holding back yourself and your party.
    Well, of course it applies to SCH too. Swiftcast Eos/Selene, Swiftcast Resurrection, etc. Can you image re-casting your pet without swiftcast during fights like Twintania, T4 or Titan? lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Davionx View Post
    Yet I didn't die to the script. Try again.
    Yes.

    You never, ever die. Ever. You never get hit by aoe or make mistakes. Right.
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    Last edited by Taruranto; 12-29-2013 at 12:01 PM.

  8. #178
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    SarcasmMisser's Avatar
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Tonberry
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    LF healer that doesn't heal to teach people who make mistakes a lesson, must not be conductive to teamwork and gives up at the slightest mistake.

    ^A shout you will never see in Revenant's Toll
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  9. #179
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    Nonori Rereyl
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    I'd say for WHM it's great, but for SCH it's basically required. Losing your fairy for any length of time is a major hamstring on your healing.
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  10. #180
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    Wild Galax
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    done all game content except for t5 without swiftcast with no problem with the right groups of course, even for t5 wasnt vital. Today we killed t5 with my static, both healers took turns in dying so we resed each other, but silly mistakes happened and since we all mastered the fight even if we wiped and done the fight again we would still win at the end. Also resing is still possible without swiftcast done it in about every end game except t4, even helps to communicate with tank so they can put in cd if necessary, however still can be done if you know the pattern of bosses and know where a time in the fight you can cast raise.
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