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    Peptaru's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imagene View Post
    In it's state now, I don't think that bards can be considered support class.

    Say for example, a support class deals 80% the damage of a true dps class. between, the tank, the healer and the DPS. A support class would be required to add another 20% DPS. Of course, the overall capabilities of a party is not restricted to damage dealing, as such, a support class could also buff the party in other ways.
    That is what bards do now . . . how are they not support?
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    That is what bards do now . . . how are they not support?
    They're DPS with raid cooldowns. Very much akin to an enhancement shaman in WoW. And that's not a bad thing.

    @OP: "Support" doesn't work in trinity-based MMOs.
    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrAM View Post
    Yoshi mentioned a 'hybrid' role in the most recent live letter (I believe is where it was), so something similar could be incoming. Though what exactly will be a hybrid of is up for debate.

    But he wanted two of each role in a full party: 2 tanks, 2 healers, 2 dps, 2 hybrid.
    I'm still hoping that was along the lines of "warrior players didn't research enough" rather than a legitimate peek at what's to come.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
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    Nysneirdre Lauriel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
    That is what bards do now . . . how are they not support?
    The bard is a hybrid class not a true support class. Some examples of true support classes from others games are a Bard from Rift Online, Minstrel / Bard / Skald from Dark Age of Camelot, Captain from Lotro.

    Also with the subject of the OP, I don't think its possible for a true support type class in this game with the basic group build being 4 people and with the current content built towards 1 tank, 1 healer, two dps. If we see more support type abilities in the future, it will be like the bard. A dps class with some minor raid type short duration buffs.
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