Nerf SMN

[Nenin]

...OP Sleep post...

The benefit that Miasma has over Sleep is it's idiot-proof. Once it lands it WILL last the full duration unless the healer is smart + lucky enough to cleanse it. Any moron can smack a sleeping/frozen target and nullify the CC. Of course there are strategies to to avoid or maximize any CC/debuff in a premade but the average person solo queues.

Any class that can be played effectively without a great deal of effort is a magnet for QQ. Look at what happened to Bards. Bad BLMs are a joke and drop like rocks. Bad SMN still wreak havoc on PUGs. It's analogous to WoW back when the only classes with healing debuffs were warrior and rogue. Sure you could get gladiator with an obscure team composition but it was exponentially harder having to work around your lack of MS/Wound Poison.

[xxalucard]

The benefit that Miasma has over Sleep is it's idiot-proof. Once it lands it WILL last the full duration unless the healer is smart + lucky enough to cleanse it. Any moron can smack a sleeping/frozen target and nullify the CC. Of course there are strategies to to avoid or maximize any CC/debuff in a premade but the average person solo queues.

I don't feel that "players might be bad and ruin the CC" is a fair argument against sleep. In fact, "players can be good" is the argument I am making FOR sleep, because when used intelligently and with coordination, it can be much more OP than miasma.

I'm pretty sure PvP is intended to be coordinated (hence the annoying 2 minute wait every match), whether you solo queue or not. So if people are waking up enemies you sleep...that's kind of your own problem, and is avoidable if you go in with friends that know what they are doing and communicate.