Gill earnings!

[Hanabira]

I wonder how silly the people who were raging at how 2.1 income wasn't going to increase much feel now.

Depends on who you ask... ask a guy who was making hundreds of thousands of gil per day farming fleece or making materia how he feels about his couple thousand of gil from dungeons.

[xwxmeowxvvx]

Depends on who you ask... ask a guy who was making hundreds of thousands of gil per day farming fleece or making materia how he feels about his couple thousand of gil from dungeons.

Those prices were extremely inflated and not at all within what the items should be selling for once the market gets more stable. Most people knew those prices would not last. I almost always post things on the AH with a cost to make/earn + reasonable profit rate; sometimes it is less than the other listings and sometimes it is more and they sit for longer.

[MageBlack]

Awesome guys! thanks for the comments. I just wanted to respond to a few here to ask a few questions and clarify a few things.

This one is a good way to earn gil but it seems to reward mostly to Tank players since most of the bonuses are towards Tanks and Healers get the bonus sometimes. DD is given hardly any chance.

Excellent! Good to hear that the duty roulette bonuses are serving their purpose.

They gave out free t4 materia and made t3 and t4 much much easier to get, meaning the prices of them tanked. also they lowered the HQ rewards for repeatable leaves and greatly increased the drop rate of farmable crafting loot (skins, webs etc.) sure they added a static amount of gil from dungeons.. but they killed off several trade markets.

i just spent 250-300k leveling carpenter to 50 to get byregot's blessing to HQ gear to use for spirit bonding for materia to sell and i paid for it by farming mobs, now my farming source is gone, as well as the materia.

The reason I wasnt really wanting to talk about Crafting and such is because its not a gil fountain. Its not something that brings more money into the econamy, it's only a means of shuffling it around. Sad to hear that you arent making as much but we needed more ways to get gil into the game. Look more for the new rare materiels and recipes.

Depends on who you ask... ask a guy who was making hundreds of thousands of gil per day farming fleece or making materia how he feels about his couple thousand of gil from dungeons.

So, how did you make money from the fleece you farmed? Sell it at the Market Wards? Ok. Next question, where did the person who bought that item get their gil from? A gil fountain. Before the biggest fountain was through the quests as you leveled, which were exhaustible. What I was looking for was how are people making money now from these new fountains (the ones I listed) I tried to stay away from Mat's because I know thats just a shuffling of gil, not gil coming out of the game itself.

There is more gil being generated but it's not being circulated very much.

On Sargatanas there is a mountain of unused materials and items rotting on the market boards. The Devs even increased the supply in patch 2.1 so it's probably going to get worse.

However, the real problem is lack of demand for anything crafted. It would be really great if the Devs and Yoshi P could create a demand for these things, such as turning in gear for influence in a zone in FFXI.

Ya, that is an unfortunate side effect of the cost of housing, that many people want, being so high. Now there are less buyers cause they want to hold on to their gil for their mansions. We should see the prices of mats once again start going up in the future once people start buying houses, then they will need to furnish them. So, buy now while costs are down, play the stocks! Buy low! Sell high!

[Hanabira]

The reason I wasnt really wanting to talk about Crafting and such is because its not a gil fountain. Its not something that brings more money into the econamy, it's only a means of shuffling it around. Sad to hear that you arent making as much but we needed more ways to get gil into the game. Look more for the new rare materiels and recipes.

So, how did you make money from the fleece you farmed? Sell it at the Market Wards? Ok. Next question, where did the person who bought that item get their gil from? A gil fountain. Before the biggest fountain was through the quests as you leveled, which were exhaustible. What I was looking for was how are people making money now from these new fountains (the ones I listed) I tried to stay away from Mat's because I know thats just a shuffling of gil

well for 1, the person i responded to said income, not gil creation. i get income from working my job, not from printing fresh bills.

Those prices were extremely inflated and not at all within what the items should be selling for once the market gets more stable. Most people knew those prices would not last. I almost always post things on the AH with a cost to make/earn + reasonable profit rate; sometimes it is less than the other listings and sometimes it is more and they sit for longer.

For a widely used item that drops 1 at a time, i think 300gil each isnt bad all things considering. There are things on the AH that were easier to get that cost more. but increasing a drop rate from 1-3 at a time to up to 12 is ridiculous

[MageBlack]

well for 1, the person i responded to said income, not gil creation. i get income from working my job, not from printing fresh bills.

I realize that, it just wasn't the purpose of the OP. So, why not take advantage of the cheap prices right now ans stockpile some mats that you know will be used in furnishing crafting. This way you can make a killing once people start getting their houses. Don't be so shortsighted, think about the long term too.

[Peptaru]

The reason I wasnt really wanting to talk about Crafting and such is because its not a gil fountain. Its not something that brings more money into the econamy, it's only a means of shuffling it around. Sad to hear that you arent making as much but we needed more ways to get gil into the game. Look more for the new rare materiels and recipes.

This part -- Crafting and selling on the market boards is actually a gil sink. Yes, it redistributes, but it also drains gil with every sale. You may well realize that, but there are MANY people who ignore that fact. The only way to avoid that is to work with trades instead of the MB, but I for one love not having chat flooded with "WTS, WTB!" except the d-baggy "WTS ifrit/garuda/titan" furnishing pieces... and I'd love to injure those shouters.