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  1. #31
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    Herrstarr's Avatar
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    Herr Starr
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    It sucks yeah, but once you get a feel for when each twin does it you can pretty much dodge it, I was doing this consistently after about 10-15 minutes of doing the fight. It went along the lines of this "Ok XXX sister is nearing 15% hp, its about this time she usually does the attack, i better run out", run out, dodge attack, go back in and finish her off. rinse repeat. if you can't do this then ask for a stoneskin so atleast you don't get 1 shot, or get more than 4.5k hp ^^
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  2. #32
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    LupusLazuli's Avatar
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    Lupus Lazuli
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    They have a clear rotation and it can be dodged if you're paying attention. In the first phase the abilities leading up to wicked wheel are: Friction (ground AoE w/ red circle), then the frontal swipe, then wicked wheel. Once you see the ground AoE start watching for the frontal swipe, then after that gtfo until you see wicked wheel go off.

    In the tornado phase it's similar. Suparna will cast slipstream with a cast bar, then shortly after do the wicked wheel. I've just been staying out of range until wicked wheel goes off after I see the cast bar. Garuda's wicked wheel happens right after Chirada casts friction. So basically in the tornado phase as soon as you see either of the sisters casting something, get as far away from either Suparna or Garuda as possible until you see the wicked wheel. This is easily my worst fight as far as melee uptime goes, so don't worry if you spend more time than usual standing around waiting for the wheel to go off, since you'll be doing even less damage if you get oneshot by it :P

    Hope this helped!
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    Last edited by LupusLazuli; 12-20-2013 at 04:23 PM. Reason: char limit

  3. #33
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    kaox_reaper's Avatar
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    Zeromuz T'zur
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    As a MNK ilvl 83 I use Fists of Earth combined with Foresight and the attack does 3.2k damage. Got used to it after being one spotted 4-5 times. As far as I can tell, she'll use it soon after she does Friction.
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  4. #34
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by kaox_reaper View Post
    As a MNK ilvl 83 I use Fists of Earth combined with Foresight and the attack does 3.2k damage. Got used to it after being one spotted 4-5 times. As far as I can tell, she'll use it soon after she does Friction.
    I was about to post asking how effective just using a defensive CD or two would be. Nice to know it works.
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  5. #35
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    EasymodeX's Avatar
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 50
    The main thing is to not use BFB.
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  6. #36
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    MomoOG's Avatar
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    Vicas Windwalker
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    If you are dealing with Wicked Wheel in this fight then you don't understand the mechanics of the fight or your group dps is low. If the fight is done correctly melee dps will never see a wicked wheel.
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  7. #37
    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Kicking Wolf
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MomoOG View Post
    If you are dealing with Wicked Wheel in this fight then you don't understand the mechanics of the fight or your group dps is low. If the fight is done correctly melee dps will never see a wicked wheel.
    I am still trying to understand what causes wicked wheel. Most of the time I don't see it now but others I do. The videos I have watched show the exact same thing... sometimes they use it and others they don't.
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  8. #38
    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Kicking Wolf
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    The main thing is to not use BFB.
    With the nerf to BfB I don't use it nearly as much as I did before. If there is any chance I will get hit with something that could kill me or that I will be an MP drain I skip it until I know I am safe.
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  9. #39
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    Vicas Windwalker
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    I am still trying to understand what causes wicked wheel. Most of the time I don't see it now but others I do. The videos I have watched show the exact same thing... sometimes they use it and others they don't.
    Wicked Wheel occurs at a set time only during the sister phases. Your dps should be able to kill Chirada before Wheel comes out. Usually Wheel occurs just after you kill Chirada and you are transitioning over to Suprana. If you dps is TOO fast then you might have to wait a second or two before Suprana/Garuda do the Wheel before jumping to Suprana. I've been told Wheel is only done when all 3 sisters are alive but I'm pretty sure I've seen Suprana/Garuda do the Wheel after Chirada goes down.
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  10. #40
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    Subucnimorning's Avatar
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    Blue Lightt
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    Wicked Wheel definitely still happens when only Suparna/Garuda are up
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