Monks very weak. Need rebalance

[kaox_reaper]

It's because of threads and baddies like this that we got such a beautiful buff, I'd like to thank God for giving me the skill to use my MNK as good as I do and I'd like to thank all the QQers out there for making this buff happen.
*takes a bow and walks off the stage

[Onyxys]

What about monk_in_PvP (question to those, who tested arena)?

[NoctisUmbra]

What about monk_in_PvP (question to those, who tested arena)?

Obviously just limited personal experience but, I did like 2-3 matches last night. Were my first. Won all of em. One of the parties involved me being paired with another MNK as the 2 DPS for our team, versus a BRD and BLM on the other team. Still won.

<3 Shoulder Tackle being so short, and damage being so strong.

[Onyxys]

Obviously just limited personal experience but, I did like 2-3 matches last night. Were my first. Won all of em. One of the parties involved me being paired with another MNK as the 2 DPS for our team, versus a BRD and BLM on the other team. Still won.

<3 Shoulder Tackle being so short, and damage being so strong.

But what about positioning- side, back, side, back? And what about the other @main power@- GL?

[NoctisUmbra]

But what about positioning- side, back, side, back? And what about the other @main power@- GL?

You miss out on a lot of positioning based bonuses when most engagements are chases and such. Comes down to using skills that don't heat weak when out of position. Doesn't end up mattering much when people die fast enough anyway.

[Onyxys]

You miss out on a lot of positioning based bonuses when most engagements are chases and such. Comes down to using skills that don't heat weak when out of position. Doesn't end up mattering much when people die fast enough anyway.

Oh.. It is not interesting- just stupid button smashing. I knew it would be so...

[NoctisUmbra]

Oh.. It is not interesting- just stupid button smashing. I knew it would be so...

It's PvP. Other players don't just stand around and let you maximize DPS. Can't really compare it to PvE.

Looking at the PvP skills, we'll have some pretty interesting decisions to make. Also, what's really happening in a PvP match is more about positional strategy and selecting the right target, etc, as well as overall awareness of who on your team is being targetted as well as coordination on who on the opposing team you need to target.

PvP and PvE are completely different animals. Whats important in one can be entirely trivial in the other, and vice versa.

Just try it yourself.

[Onyxys]

It's PvP. Other players don't just stand around and let you maximize DPS. Can't really compare it to PvE.

Looking at the PvP skills, we'll have some pretty interesting decisions to make. Also, what's really happening in a PvP match is more about positional strategy and selecting the right target, etc, as well as overall awareness of who on your team is being targetted as well as coordination on who on the opposing team you need to target.

PvP and PvE are completely different animals. Whats important in one can be entirely trivial in the other, and vice versa.

Just try it yourself.

Dont have a wish to try- game's battle mechanics too stupid for PvP, skills dont modified-balanced for PvP, but they must be, stupid and sily round arena with tactics "try to catch healer" and stupid face-to-face button smashing and so on

[NoctisUmbra]

Dont have a wish to try- game's battle mechanics too stupid for PvP, skills dont modified-balanced for PvP, but they must be, stupid and sily round arena with tactics "try to catch healer" and stupid face-to-face button smashing and so on

To each his own I suppose.

[AldricBranchais]

Dont have a wish to try- game's battle mechanics too stupid for PvP, skills dont modified-balanced for PvP, but they must be, stupid and sily round arena with tactics "try to catch healer" and stupid face-to-face button smashing and so on

Out of curiosity, how would you design your PVP?