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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thriar View Post
    Lol turn 5 really? Spike damage = lustrate. If there is a debuff that needs to be cleansed, cleanse first. Not the samething dude. Keep to the issue at hand.
    Every time the tank takes a death sentence they receive a healing debuff. It cannot be cleansed. I'm pretty sure this is the issue at hand.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    Every time the tank takes a death sentence they receive a healing debuff. It cannot be cleansed. I'm pretty sure this is the issue at hand.
    And pretty sure I said, spike damage = lustrate(Death sentence = spike damage in case you didn't know). I know how to heal on turn 5. But since you're on a whole other fight now instead the one you originally complained about; it seems this argument is derailing into mudslinging. Both sides have their points up but in the end, it's up to the player.
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    Last edited by Thriar; 12-19-2013 at 05:11 PM.

  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    Good luck with that mentality on turn 5.
    Getting out of topic there. Coil is coil, you mentioned Siren. Adapt.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldlv View Post
    Getting out of topic there. Coil is coil, you mentioned Siren. Adapt.
    No, I mentioned Siren because we have another boss with another healing debuff now. It has felt broken since day 1. It just feels more broken now that there are two more situations where I can heal through healing debuffs without batting an eye.

    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post

    With the addition of Siren and Miasma in PVP, it has just gotten more noticeable.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thriar View Post
    And pretty sure I said, spike damage = lustrate(Death sentence = spike damage in case you didn't know). I know how to heal on turn 5. But since you're on a whole other fight now instead the one you originally complained about; it seems this argument is derailing into mudslinging. Both sides have their points up but in the end, it's up to the player.
    Lol go back and read the original post if you think that mentioning different healing debuffs when talking about lustrate is derailing into mudslinging. It's a broken mechanic, the same way medica 2 trivialized AoE damage.
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    In fairness I'd say "yeah sure go ahead and make lustrate be affected by healing debuffs". But I'd rather have them reduce the cd on benediction.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    We need to STOP asking for nerfs in competing classes just because they may or may not have it easier on some content than we do.
    There is no such thing as "competing classes" in FFXIV. Level however many classes you want to play. People who get emotional about nerfs are ridiculous. Classes/abilities are nerfed because they are out of tune with the rest of the game and are brought back down to scale to keep the game enjoyable.

    Lustrate breaks healing debuffs -- they become trivial when there is a scholar around.

    The answer to Siren's healing debuff should be to interrupt it every time. Not to turn around and just blow a lustrate on whoever the target is.

    The answer to death sentence should be precise tank coordination, not bringing two scholars and not even bothering to use two tanks.

    The answer to a tank standing in white breath should be hallowed ground, or benediction. Not having a scholar just blow a few extra stacks on lustrate.
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    Last edited by reality_check; 12-19-2013 at 05:25 PM.

  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by reality_check View Post
    The answer to Siren's healing debuff should be to interrupt it every time. Not to turn around and just blow a lustrate on whoever the target is.
    It's your answer, not everyone is the same. Everyone can pick their own play style, no? Or is it only 1 play style is allowed? *shrugs*
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    If SE lowered the cooldown on benediction, reduced the mana on cure 3 (Hell all the cure skills), made stone skin cast time cut in half + a proc chance to double the skin effect with/without the trait, would ye shaddap on Lustrate being op?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleftobismal View Post
    made stone skin cast time cut in half + a proc chance to double the skin effect
    So...Adlo? :P
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