Medica II change

[Kyomih]

It does, but the problem is, does it top people like it did before? In my experience, far from it. I mean, even REgen itself can't be upept a lot, but far from topping alone, and imho that niche of low potency-long lasting HoT was alraedy filled by that and there was no need for an aoe one. Especially if you count Regen is insta cast while MedicaII....

No it doesn't - it really is more like a buffer I keep up at all times. But I also threw regen on some of the dps that got hit during laser phases. I totally agree with you but the only option we have right now, is to adapt.
So far it's not as bad as I thought it would be. Doing Coil tomorrow so I'll see how that goes. I see Medica II more like an AoE regen that I try to keep on everyone. The burst is definitely gone. I think it just keeps the group overall a bit more stable.
We did Titan HM for two FC members. I found myself spamming Medica I much more for stomps now where I would have used Medica II before. We had quite a few dead and the second healer was a new WHM there for his relic. I ended up out of mana 3 times and stomp got up to 8+ but we made it.

Also, still really concerned with potential MP Issues. It's ok if I can pop SoS on CD but not sure how it's going to look for T4 where I have to use shroud for transitions and can't have regen up during those either.

[VisRalis]

I gotta agree that it is making me using Medica I more, when before the change I never had to use it after I got Medica II.
It's alright. It is weaker burst healing but workable.

I'm glad I'm on Piety build!

[Tlamila]

No it doesn't - it really is more like a buffer I keep up at all times. But I also threw regen on some of the dps that got hit during laser phases. I totally agree with you but the only option we have right now, is to adapt.
So far it's not as bad as I thought it would be. Doing Coil tomorrow so I'll see how that goes. I see Medica II more like an AoE regen that I try to keep on everyone. The burst is definitely gone. I think it just keeps the group overall a bit more stable.
We did Titan HM for two FC members. I found myself spamming Medica I much more for stomps now where I would have used Medica II before. We had quite a few dead and the second healer was a new WHM there for his relic. I ended up out of mana 3 times and stomp got up to 8+ but we made it.

Also, still really concerned with potential MP Issues. It's ok if I can pop SoS on CD but not sure how it's going to look for T4 where I have to use shroud for transitions and can't have regen up during those either.

No good to hear <.<

And yeah MP is really becoming a problem where it shouldn't be, in Pharos I ran out of mana a lot (and bard wouldn't even give song to me cause "na you casted shroud you're fine --'') and that's really frustrating.

[DreamWeaver]

Medica 2 is more of a utility now IMHO:

In 2.0, scholar have the skills to mitigate predictable big damage (Aetheric Profusion, Geocrush etc), there's not much movement intensive encounters.
Now in 2.1, based on my experience with Ultima HM, this fight is extremely movement intensive for certain phases, and the tank is still getting smacked around while you're moving, Scholars' answer to this is Lustrate, as for WHMs', the answer IMHO, lies in precasting Medica 2, and Regen on whoever gets hit for 200 potency per 3 second (150+50).

As I said above, I only have experience with Ultima HM only, haven't try/watch videos of Garuda EM (gonna go in fresh!! :P), but if new encounters are more movement heavy compared to 2.0, I believe the use of Medica II will be as a utility to "mitigate" predictable movement heavy phases, just as how Sacred Soil and Succor is used to mitigate single big heavy damage.

[Kyomih]

I am having Medica II up at all times now but to be honest, I really don't think it made a difference during Ultima HM. The problem is the regen is just not enough to offset all the incoming damage and make an actual difference. You will have to DS it every time to really see a difference imo.

[DreamWeaver]

I am having Medica II up at all times now but to be honest, I really don't think it made a difference during Ultima HM. The problem is the regen is just not enough to offset all the incoming damage and make an actual difference. You will have to DS it every time to really see a difference imo.

Exactly, so for those predictable heavy movement phase, pop DS and Medica II for it.

Additionally, by itself the Medica II regen is miniscule, but what my main point is, for heavy movement phases like Ultima HM lasers, its already a hassle to find time to cast Cure spells on the tank, let alone on a DPS, so if any DPS gets hit, you can pop our only instant cast healing spell - Regen on him, and since he's enjoying the benefits of both Medica II and Regen, he/she will recover hp faster, thus the time frame where he can't make another mistake is shortened by 33% (150 potency increase to 200 potency).