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    Ranel's Avatar
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    Ranel Highwind
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    PVP Balances Required

    1. Sleep is overpowered, specially comboed with swiftcast. It needs nerf. 30 sec is crazy. It should be just 5 seconds

    2. Pvp lobby wait time is 2 minutes, this should be set to 30 seconds only.

    3. Morale - can somebody explain this clearly? (does this add additional damage to people with zero morale resistance as well?) i90 Gear > i70 PVP gear?

    4. Reset PVP skill item are very expensive.

    5. Wolf Mark Earned needs to be increased.

    Feel free to add any balance changes in PVP in your mind.
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    Richter Fact
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Sleep is overpowered in the lower tiers, yeah. As soon as people get Purify, Fetter Wards, Sleep Resist materia and such, it doesn't do much. A good group with the right gear trivializes Sleep and demolishes teams that rely on it.

    I agree on everything else. Wolf Mark might need a little tweak. Wait timer, I'm not sure. 2 minutes is too much for premades but I don't know for randoms.
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    Last edited by Addicted; 12-19-2013 at 01:52 PM.

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    Player LongNu's Avatar
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    Longnu Era
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    Zalera
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    Sleep isn't nearly half as overpowered as you think. SMN on the other hand...
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    Ranel Highwind
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    Yeah.. SMN are overpowered specially if there are two SMN. Basically SMN> Sleep> Everything Else!!!
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    Nenin Poponsand
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    SMN really shouldn't have access to a raise.

    Being breathed on shouldn't instantly cancel any cast. Spell pushback is fine. Having a hardcasted 4s Flare stopped at 3.95s when a Bard unintentionally auto-attacks you as he tabs through targets is just silly.
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    Shiyo Kozuki
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranel View Post
    1. Sleep is overpowered, specially comboed with swiftcast. It needs nerf. 30 sec is crazy. It should be just 5 seconds

    2. Pvp lobby wait time is 2 minutes, this should be set to 30 seconds only.

    3. Morale - can somebody explain this clearly? (does this add additional damage to people with zero morale resistance as well?) i90 Gear > i70 PVP gear?

    4. Reset PVP skill item are very expensive.

    5. Wolf Mark Earned needs to be increased.

    Feel free to add any balance changes in PVP in your mind.
    Sleep is fine, purify completely counters swiftcast.

    Lobby wait time is too long, should be 1 minute.

    Morale needs to be explained.

    Resetting your skills should be free.

    Wolf marks are fine.

    I have a thread talking about PVP issues here:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...26#post1694726
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  7. #7
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    Lodovico Rivers
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    1. Sleep is fine as is. Don't go into PvP with PvE gear expecting to pawn n00bz

    2. The 2 minute wait time is fine. It gives people using DF time to strategize. Though maybe they could cut it down to 1 min for premade parties

    3. From what I was told, HQ ilvl 55 PvP gear > PvE ilvl 90 gear by a little bit. The ilvl 70 PvP stuff makes a big difference compared to the ilvl 90 gear. Morale increases your defense against other players.

    4. I agree. It discourages playing with multiple jobs

    4. Wolf mark gain is fine, imo. PvP gear should take a while to get since there isn't much PvP content at the moment.
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  8. #8
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    Please Relax
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 60
    2 minutes is about 1 and a half minutes too long. I have played almost 150 matches so far, 2 minutes each match = lots of wasted hours. You never need 2 minutes to make a strat and buff up.
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    Cat Man
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    Marauder Lv 30
    1- LOL to saying sleep is not op, it is ridiculously stronger than all others cc, and a game balance shouldn't be focused on high end skills and gear ffs. And yes purify, then you just get 15s sleep(-.-,).
    Oh and don't even think about going for the first time into pvp in 1 month(maybe even 1-2weeks) those pvp actions the high ranked ones have will just crush you... it all needs serious work.
    I can't even imagine it when a caster party(3 casters) have non interrupt spell for 20s + 30s 40% damage reduction with 100 potency regen bubble(SERIOUSLY?!), oh and healer"you can't touch me" spell ... all the while running like stupid... the whole casting mechanics needs total re balance.

    2 - Yeah this is just silly.

    3- Ilvl 90 pve > ilvl 70, ilvl 55 is a bit more debatable

    4- Yep

    5- Kind of, more because of the cost of the reset item, otherwise they kinda make sense. You'll need A LOT of battles to reach rank 30 so you'll have plenty of marks i think.

    PS: I'm having fun anyway, did plenty of matches already and inbalances are to be expected anyway, just hope it gets fixed before 2.2 <.<.
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    Last edited by Pibz; 12-19-2013 at 04:02 PM.

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    Player LongNu's Avatar
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    Longnu Era
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KamikazeMan View Post
    3. From what I was told, HQ ilvl 55 PvP gear > PvE ilvl 90 gear by a little bit. The ilvl 70 PvP stuff makes a big difference compared to the ilvl 90 gear. Morale increases your defense against other players.
    i90 PvE gear > i55 PvP gear in offense and defense due to higher health pools with flat out better damage
    i70 PvP gear > i90 PvE gear in most slots
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