Huge SMN nerf: we're losing Thunder

[Syrellaris]

Patch notes: "Thunder Can now only be used by thaumaturge and black mage."

Thunder is at least 10% - 15% of SMN total DPS (including pet). This is a pretty big nerf for SMN... especially considering melee DPS classes are getting buffed.

Well, time to go BLM.. except for all this myth I spent.

Oh, and Allagan Boots nerf:
Before: INT+18, VIT+18, Critical Hit Rate+21, Accuracy+15
After: INT+18, VIT+18, Spell Speed+21, Determination+11

Ehm.. what?

Thunder was useless for a summoner at lvl 50, I used it for leveling up but after that, i just did away with it. It was really not worth the casting time if you knew how to utilize your other skills correctly.

The issue wasn't that Summoners were ahead in dps or not, and that is very debatable, the problem is the class is supposed to be a DoT class and they took away one of their DoTs, which makes no sense. If the class is designed to focus on launching Dots and working around that mechanic, then they should have access to all of the DoTs in this cross class system.

Yes it is a DoT based class, however only for the dots it has native. Bio, Bio II and Miasma. These 3 dots are your power house and utilized correctly will out do the damage done with Thunder all together. Hell even if you add in Aero it still does not get near the damage you can get from just your 3 native skills. Learn to use ED, Bane and Fester correctly together with your pet skills. Oh and don't forget Shadow Flare.

[Ri_ri]

You go on and on about how you use your skills "correctly", but still has no solid evidence of how Thunder (which is the same as Miasma but 6 sec less of duration) is "useless".

[ispano]

Ehm.. what?

Thunder was useless for a summoner at lvl 50, I used it for leveling up but after that, i just did away with it. It was really not worth the casting time if you knew how to utilize your other skills correctly.

As Ecks said, you were doing it wrong. Thunder is 240 potency for the one cast. That's triple what Ruin does. It gives you the same potency for the GCD that Bio does.