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    A> New players on new worlds
    B> Players existing from 1.0 playing on Legacy World
    C> New players who started on Legacy world


    Person A, B, and C walks into a burger joint and orders the exact same combo.

    Store to A ) Your order comes out to $8.50, thank you
    Store to B ) (Hey this guy lives in that rich area, he must be rich) Your order comes out to $850.00 thank you
    Store to C ) (This guy lives next to B so he must be rich too) Your order comes out to $850.00 thank you


    How is this fair?
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    Risae Nyan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    A> New players on new worlds
    B> Players existing from 1.0 playing on Legacy World
    C> New players who started on Legacy world


    Person A, B, and C walks into a burger joint and orders the exact same combo.

    Store to A ) Your order comes out to $8.50, thank you
    Store to B ) (Hey this guy lives in that rich area, he must be rich) Your order comes out to $850.00 thank you
    Store to C ) (This guy lives next to B so he must be rich too) Your order comes out to $850.00 thank you


    How is this fair?
    In Squares mind it is.
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    Ixora Lepta
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    I'm assuming legacy players existed in a time before the current economy existed, giving them access to gil in circulation that came from places out of Square's ability to put any practical balance to. I'm guessing the preemptive changes by dividing their gil + the calculations of these housing costs got skewed somewhere?

    This community complains about things it really shouldn't be complaining about. The amount of servers in a reboot of a failed game? Seriously? ARR had a successful launch, better install a crapload of servers in hindsight of a problem we have no hindsight of. I've played games that are exponentially worse than this one in every aspect and people find less to cry about.

    Whether or not they correctly calculated the amount of Gil in circulation seems to be suspect, but i guess that's just what we're gonna have to wait and see. But the amount of people pretending that this sort of ordeal is trivial to handle is troubling.
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    Sayura Ava
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    This community complains about things it really shouldn't be complaining about. The amount of servers in a reboot of a failed game? Seriously? ARR had a successful launch, better install a crapload of servers in hindsight of a problem we have no hindsight of. I've played games that are exponentially worse than this one in every aspect and people find less to cry about.
    ARR had a successful launch?....did you sleep through those 2 weeks of not being able to log in?

    Housing launched 3 months after the initial login server fiasco. They knew the amount of subscribers and server populations giving them the information they need on server usage for housing. This is not hindsight; this is 3 months of data.
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    Molly Millions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayura_ View Post
    ARR had a successful launch?....did you sleep through those 2 weeks of not being able to log in?
    There was only one day where I was not able to log in and there was no maintenance, and that was for about 90 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    There was only one day where I was not able to log in and there was no maintenance, and that was for about 90 minutes.
    Oh? You don't remember clicking start, login, over and over and over again? Perhaps you AFK'd the entire two weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayura_ View Post
    Oh? You don't remember clicking start, login, over and over and over again? Perhaps you AFK'd the entire two weeks.
    It was troublesome, yes, but I got in every single time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sayura_ View Post
    ARR had a successful launch?....did you sleep through those 2 weeks of not being able to log in?
    This is exactly what im talking about. An unexpected amount of server stress from player activity = unsuccessful launch? On which planet, can I ask?

    The amount of data you can get from something doesn't create an infinite pool of money or resources (or "hindsight") to adequately deal with an issue. And that's assuming that the current housing problem is even a server issue -- that just sounds like another corporate evil theory from people who like to complain about stuff.

    Whatever the real issue is, you guys just don't know. I haven't even been playing this game for a month and I can tell, it handles alot more server activity than your typical MMO would. I understand that many typical players wouldn't understand that type of thing, but the QQ is still a bit baffling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post

    Whatever the real issue is, you guys just don't know. I haven't even been playing this game for a month and I can tell, it handles alot more server activity than your typical MMO would. I understand that many typical players wouldn't understand that type of thing, but the QQ is still a bit baffling.
    So limiting the number of people in a zone (with no overflow) because Odin used to crash entire servers is handling a lot?

    Instanced housing versus open-world housing that has been around since at least 2000 is handling a lot?

    Not being able to even whisper or see your friends list in an instance is handling a lot?

    Admitting they cannot PHYSICALLY implement more housing instances right now is handling a lot?
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