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    At this point Per, you just dont want crafters to have anything to do with anything I take it

    If something is hard to make, or earn, it should be worth alot more gil
    if you dont like it, go try and get it yourself

    People will pay for the convenience of not doing something themselves, thats all their is too it

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    What's with this crafter-hate? Coming from a crafter to boot? Watch crafters destroy the economy? That is a joke. We crafters ARE the economy.

    Like it or not, crafting is integral to this game, and shutting us out of anything crafting related isn't going to make things prettier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    At this point Per, you just dont want crafters to have anything to do with anything I take it

    If something is hard to make, or earn, it should be worth alot more gil
    if you dont like it, go try and get it yourself

    People will pay for the convenience of not doing something themselves, thats all their is too it
    You are perfectly free to make Vintage Haubergeon+3s all you want, Vedis, and charge whatever you wish.
    You are even perfectly free to now sell your garbage NQ haubergeons for more because they have to be bought to make materia.

    But let's be honest. You might deserve the former, but you barely deserve the latter, and you don't deserve another consideration here.

    You're just a crafter. I know I didn't earn the right to hold all the cards and keys to the materia system with my two crafts. Therefore, I know you didn't either.

    Double inlay profits should belong to all disciplines equally since they are the epitome of a three-discipine system. Hence, the NPC should block any singular discipline from milking the materia system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tymora View Post
    What's with this crafter-hate? Coming from a crafter to boot? Watch crafters destroy the economy? That is a joke. We crafters ARE the economy.

    Like it or not, crafting is integral to this game, and shutting us out of anything crafting related isn't going to make things prettier.
    Hell yeah it is. You need to get out of town more. Learn a little about what makes the world go 'round.
    It ain't crafters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    You are perfectly free to make Vintage Haubergeon+3s all you want, Vedis, and charge whatever you wish.
    You are even perfectly free to now sell your garbage NQ haubergeons for more because they have to be bought to make materia.

    But let's be honest. You might deserve the former, but you barely deserve the latter, and you don't deserve another consideration here.

    You're just a crafter.
    all i can say

    if people didnt pay my prices, i wouldnt charge them

    i dont charge a ton for nq stuff myself, MOST crafters dont, especialy with competition
    but when it comes to HQ, we have a bit more free reign since +3s are a bitch to make

    as i bet double inlay materia will be to do, how many fails do you think itl take to do it? i bet itl be pretty bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    Hell yeah it is. You need to get out of town more. Learn a little about what makes the world go 'round.
    It ain't crafters.
    Yeah you fools its gravity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scherwiz View Post
    Yeah you fools its gravity.
    actualy, the world going round causes gravity
    not the other way around

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post

    as i bet double inlay materia will be to do, how many fails do you think itl take to do it? i bet itl be pretty bad
    I know you'll eat up all the materia on the market and cram it into as many double inlays in as many crafts as you can, then charge squares and cubes more than you spent, chalking the spread up to "doing things that are a bitch."

    And that's precisely why I say pre-empt you before you ruin everything. Crafters economic benefit in this system should be limited to circulation of their wares that used to not sell. Now it will sell.

    You ask too much. Now you're just greedy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    I know you'll eat up all the materia on the market and cram it into as many double inlays in as many crafts as you can, then charge squares and cubes more than you spent, chalking the spread up to "doing things that are a bitch."

    And that's precisely why I say pre-empt you before you ruin everything. Crafters economic benefit in this system should be limited to circulation of their wares that used to not sell. Now it will sell.

    You ask too much. Now you're just greedy.
    you assume alot

    if anything ill make them for myself
    i dont care if others have them, i dont go out of my way to make and sell gear to people

    so once again, you prove yourself ignorant by saying im a greedy crafter


    also if i have to spend a million gil to get that double inlay
    why the hell shouldnt i charge an extra million for it over a single inlay?

    im pretty sure prices will be based on how greedy the FIGHTERS are who are making the materia, not the crafters

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    actualy, the world going round causes gravity
    not the other way around
    Im pretty sure the moon, the sun, and the galaxy all cause different types of gravitaional pulls but ok, ill not attempt humor again.
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