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    SE, you can set house price very high but here is what you should do

    1. Benefit. Give FC a clear benefit when they own a FC house.
    For example, 2% main attribut increase in a hour after stay in house over 5 mins
    Or some benefit for crafting grinding. The bigger the house more player can get bonus from house.
    Without a clear benefit, none will to buy a house with such high price even they can offer even higher price. It is not real world which we have to get a house for living.

    2. Resell value. House can be resell when they got more Gil to offer even larger house. So FC still will to buy a small house as soon as they can offer it.

    3. Give some house for auction every week. Just like foreclosure house. Let marketing decide what's it worth instead of a game director's decision.
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    I think #1 will make players that can't afford a house even more mad. I think it should stay as vanity till the Legacy kinks are worked out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pseudopsia View Post
    I think #1 will make players that can't afford a house even more mad.
    I don't think so. Do you feel mad if you saw a people drive a luxury car on street which you cannot offer? Or do you get mad when you saw players had better gear than you. They are the same. You just need work/play harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    I don't think so. Do you feel mad if you saw a people drive a luxury car on street which you cannot offer? Or do you get mad when you saw players had better gear than you. They are the same. You just need work/play harder.
    Think about how mad players are now where there is no real benefit for buying the FC house. If they're mad about not being able to afford something that provides nothing (performance wise), what makes you think they wouldn't when it does?

    We (your peers) are very stupid people. It's very important to remember that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    I don't think so. Do you feel mad if you saw a people drive a luxury car on street which you cannot offer? Or do you get mad when you saw players had better gear than you. They are the same. You just need work/play harder.
    I used to have someone on facebook that complained about his section 8 paperwork not coming in.. and then complained that his camaro doesnt handle well in the winter. In cases like this, hell yes it makes me mad because if i didnt have to pay rent, i could buy one too >.>. now to relate that to ffxiv... uhh... yeah ive got nothing, i just hate that guy.
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    The devs plan on eventually adding content where FCs build an airship for use in future content via their house.
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    I'd love to read more about the airship you're talking about. Is there a reference/source for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royal View Post
    I'd love to read more about the airship you're talking about. Is there a reference/source for that?
    It was in the housing live letter that got everyone excited for housing.

    1:52:17
    Q: What type of facilities will we have access to within a housing area other than the market board and retainer?
    A: First, you can have a crafting workshop in your house to be used by any crafters in your free company. Also, in the event you need a large amount of low level materials for crafting, we're planning to make it possible to place NPCs in your house that would sell these materials. We'll be adding on to features such as this over time.

    1:53:09
    Q: What are the advantages of making things in your underground workshop?
    A: You'll be able to build airships and go adventuring with them. We were stuck on deciding whether to go with boats or airships, but we decided to go with airships first. We'd also like to do boats, but for now crafters will be able to gather together and build airships in these underground workshops. We'd like to introduce this before the first expansion.
    Source: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/113554
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    Wow thanks so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    1. Benefit. Give FC a clear benefit when they own a FC house.
    For example, 2% main attribut increase in a hour after stay in house over 5 mins
    Or some benefit for crafting grinding. The bigger the house more player can get bonus from house.
    Without a clear benefit, none will to buy a house with such high price even they can offer even higher price. It is not real world which we have to get a house for living.

    2. Resell value. House can be resell when they got more Gil to offer even larger house. So FC still will to buy a small house as soon as they can offer it.

    3. Give some house for auction every week. Just like foreclosure house. Let marketing decide what's it worth instead of a game director's decision.
    1. There are clear benefits to owning an FC house, go read that live letter answers thread that Pseudopsia was kind enough to link to.

    2. You will be able to trade in your land deed towards a larger land deed. (I believe they said that feature was coming in 2.2)

    3. Housing is a gil/crafting sink, not too mention that SE has stated that they would add housing as needed (as a certain percentage of the last instance get's filled up). Any FC that wants a house can buy one under this system, and even if they implemented an auction system for some of the houses, they'd just end up selling for a few gil less than whatever the current price SE has set is.

    Housing is optional, you don't need it as a requirement to do something else... what exactly is the point you're getting at? Why does SE need to do something? There hasn't exactly been a huge outcry about the housing system. Will you also argue that there are no clear benefits to companions and SE needs to change that as well?
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