wolf mark gain rate is incredibly slow.

[Warlyx]

around 30 wins for an item ? lol

[MisterRuseman]

Wow lots of complainers are out. The rate is perfectly fine. Sleep is not op

[jebali]

You get 10x less for a loss then a win like when I won I got 50 and when I lost I go 5xp

the gear cost 20k for the first set

so it will take about 1000 matches to get the starter set if you win 50% of the time.

One arena area is going to get old long before 1000 matches

[Lobselvith]

If you ask me ranking up in PvP is too fast. they should slow it down. but just a little.

[KamikazeMan]

This content update is supposed to last till 2.2.....which is at least 3 months away. Stop trying to rush through it.

[JayCommon]

I've been getting 50+ for wins. Maybe it depends on the rank of the people you are facing or you get more marks for your personal rank. I'm guessing it doesn't stay low forever.

Are you going in with pre-mades or random group? Didn't they say there would be a difference in the amount you can earn between those two? I could be wrong....but I think I remember reading that somewhere.

[Rightchaus]

I'm kind of disappointed you get points for losing. Maybe the cost of PvP gear is too high but it gives people something to do.

You understand they gave points only for winning, it would discourage some people from participating. Which in turn would be longer queue times. When you only rewards wins, the idea of... "no point, I am just feeding" comes into play.

[Alhanelem]

I've been getting 50+ for wins. Maybe it depends on the rank of the people you are facing or you get more marks for your personal rank. I'm guessing it doesn't stay low forever.

I guess. But I usually get 30 points, ive never seen omre than that. I also don't get any for kills which they originally said you do get.

[jebali]

You understand they gave points only for winning, it would discourage some people from participating. Which in turn would be longer queue times. When you only rewards wins, the idea of... "no point, I am just feeding" comes into play.

you are correct with the level of "reward' for losing now it is already at that point, but these people think no one should play if they don't have 24/7 356 to play a game.
I was super excited about pvp then did it and well its not fun.
Only 1 location to fight in and with the high costs of gear and low pay out it will not be worth the que time and the extreme number of matches you must do for gear that is already in game but re colored

[xRitzx]

You understand they gave points only for winning, it would discourage some people from participating. Which in turn would be longer queue times. When you only rewards wins, the idea of... "no point, I am just feeding" comes into play.

FF14 doesn't surprise me that it still gives you points for losing in PvP. They changed the MVP system to MIP, were reluctant to make a kick function, and other things that are an attempt to make FF14 a peaceful winter wonderland type of place where everyone is equal and noone loses. But there is little discouragement for losing PvP IMO because there are rewards and no penalties. Yes, it's undeniable that less people would play if you received nothing or had punishment for losing but some people like myself like that when it comes to PvP.