wolf mark gain rate is incredibly slow.

[xRitzx]

I'm kind of disappointed you get points for losing. Maybe the cost of PvP gear is too high but it gives people something to do.

[Rightchaus]

I'm kind of disappointed you get points for losing. Maybe the cost of PvP gear is too high but it gives people something to do.

You understand they gave points only for winning, it would discourage some people from participating. Which in turn would be longer queue times. When you only rewards wins, the idea of... "no point, I am just feeding" comes into play.

[jebali]

You understand they gave points only for winning, it would discourage some people from participating. Which in turn would be longer queue times. When you only rewards wins, the idea of... "no point, I am just feeding" comes into play.

you are correct with the level of "reward' for losing now it is already at that point, but these people think no one should play if they don't have 24/7 356 to play a game.
I was super excited about pvp then did it and well its not fun.
Only 1 location to fight in and with the high costs of gear and low pay out it will not be worth the que time and the extreme number of matches you must do for gear that is already in game but re colored

[xRitzx]

You understand they gave points only for winning, it would discourage some people from participating. Which in turn would be longer queue times. When you only rewards wins, the idea of... "no point, I am just feeding" comes into play.

FF14 doesn't surprise me that it still gives you points for losing in PvP. They changed the MVP system to MIP, were reluctant to make a kick function, and other things that are an attempt to make FF14 a peaceful winter wonderland type of place where everyone is equal and noone loses. But there is little discouragement for losing PvP IMO because there are rewards and no penalties. Yes, it's undeniable that less people would play if you received nothing or had punishment for losing but some people like myself like that when it comes to PvP.

[jebali]

FF14 doesn't surprise me that it still gives you points for losing in PvP. They changed the MVP system to MIP, were reluctant to make a kick function, and other things that are an attempt to make FF14 a peaceful winter wonderland type of place where everyone is equal and noone loses. But there is little discouragement for losing PvP IMO because there are rewards and no penalties. Yes, it's undeniable that less people would play if you received nothing or had punishment for losing but some people like myself like that when it comes to PvP.

if you get 0 or a penalty for losing in pvp it would we dead within a day

[Alhanelem]

nothing wong with still getting poitns when you lose, you still get much more when you win.