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  1. #481
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    Heghmoh's Avatar
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    Heghmoh Galka
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    lol. I'm not sure if anyone has done this math, but based on the dev response of ~20,000gil/day average per person

    Assuming:
    -All members donate weekly earnings.
    -All members subject to 5-day "work" week.
    -312,000,000 for the largest high-class on my server (plot only, does not factor building cost)

    312,000,000 / (20,000*5*n) = number of weeks to purchase land

    where n = number of FC members.

    So, with a moderate sized raiding FC like mine (24-30 members w/ 3 active Coil Groups), we can produce 3,000,000gil a week: were looking at 104 weeks before we are able to purchase a plot.

    Now this doesn't account for value depreciation, but lets assume 50% depreciation over some number of months (actual number irrelevant as it will take us 2 years to build base value) we can cut it down to 52 weeks with full discount. So this time next year?

    Better idea, we max out Freecompany, 512 members all paying 100,000/week. 51.2m/week! we could have the damn thing in ONLY 6.09 weeks!
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  2. #482
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    RelmLavres's Avatar
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    Relm Lavres
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    Ridill
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I could care less about Housing.

    However, I realize others have a differing opinion and respect it -- as should others.

    I see the issues where making all plots available to start. Though this is a very obvious TIME SYNC imo. With the continued feedback that ive read in this thread I am sure it will be changed.
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  3. #483
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    M'ete'leskum B'leskum
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Malakai View Post
    I don't think the pricing should be low enough that the majority of the players would already have enough Gil to purchase on the first day.
    Unfortunatelly - the "first day" availability argument being thrown around this thread a lot is completely FALSE. We all knew about FC housing for MONTHS, it was the main selling / promoting point of the 2.1 and many players (me including) worked really REALLY hard in past several months to save every available gill towards FC housing just to be slapped in the face by the patch notes and this nonsense pricing realizing that several millions they've put asside will not buy them even the doorknob, server disparity and finally the MOST STUPID EXCUSE from Yoshi and devs blaming it all on RMT!

    Quote Originally Posted by Heghmoh View Post
    lol. I'm not sure if anyone has done this math, but based on the dev response of ~20,000gil/day average per person
    I've actually did a few pages back in this thread - in my very simplified calculation the small FC with 20 members working 7 days a week will require 500 days to save for large ("crafting") house plot - PATHETIC!

    Frankly - I'm pretty disgusted how all the situation around FC Housing pricing was really badly handled from the very beggining - it was obvious from the very start that something bad is being cooked as Yoshi was in every single Live letter avoiding the pricing as a plague - I've smelt the bad sushi since last two live letters as the release of the patch 2.1 was approaching and both exact prices as well as FC (level) requirements were still kept secret / "clouded" by generic and specifics avoiding terms like "company level required for housing" and "(small??) FC house can be afforded by 3 average players" CRAP! Really? How exactly have you "calculated" that average? The same way the "average" sallary is calculated in some countries / companies??
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    Last edited by HEC; 12-17-2013 at 01:38 PM.

  4. #484
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    Rjain's Avatar
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    Rjain Midnight
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    I like how we essentially went from free housing in a game filled with poor people and extremely tedious and time-consuming long-term-goal work (Final Fantasy XI)... to a game aimed primarily towards casuals and people who "don't have much time to log in and play like they used to" with houses that will take over 50 people over 3 months of mindnumbing effort grinding gil all day every day.
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  5. #485
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    norrain13's Avatar
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    Norrain Gravytrain
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 34
    The lack of individual player housing is short sighted to say the least. Even if you own free company housing, only a handful of people will have access to really customize the things they want to customize. Generally speaking it will be the leadership gang I think in most FCs that set it all up. The mog houses were pretty ingenious, I thought this would be the next step forward. I was disappointed when I found out the individual housing MIGHT come later, and even more disappointed when I saw the pricing on homes. Crazy.
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  6. #486
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    Xayoc's Avatar
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    Youko Nakajima
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    This one /signs this open letter. Yoshi, you have a solid game with excellent content, please correct this oversight :-)
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  7. #487
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    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Heghmoh View Post
    So, with a moderate sized raiding FC like mine (24-30 members w/ 3 active Coil Groups), we can produce 3,000,000gil a week: were looking at 104 weeks before we are able to purchase a plot.
    So you'll make roughly 36 million at the 90 day mark. A medium size plot on your server would sell for roughly 37 to 46 million @ 90 day mark. It's not a mansion on the high but you're also not the top tier FC on your server. A medium home is a good size for a 30 man guild.
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  8. #488
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    Daarksoul's Avatar
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    Dark Soul
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    Why?

    They checked the gil on each server.
    The people housing was introduced for have the gil to buy it.
    You are not one of those people.
    Move on.
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  9. #489
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    Rjain's Avatar
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    Rjain Midnight
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    So you'll make roughly 36 million at the 90 day mark. A medium size plot on your server would sell for roughly 37 to 46 million @ 90 day mark. It's not a mansion on the high but you're also not the top tier FC on your server. A medium home is a good size for a 30 man guild.
    "Top tier" in what sense?

    To me, a "top tier FC" is either 5-15 rich and skilled people who are good at making money and clearing content together. They don't usually have more than 15 people.

    Then there are many FCs that have 300+ people claiming to be the biggest on their servers. Problem is, most of those either don't play often, don't clear content often, completely inactive, or don't do well making money. These types of FCs also have a lot of personality clashing, more drama, and it's more unlikely they'll be able to save up or purchase and maintain a house.

    I don't think there are many "top tier" FCs with around 100-300 people that are skilled and good at making money.
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  10. #490
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    Pyrinna Dox
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings everyone,

    Yoshida joined in to offer commentary on specific aspects, and we'd like to share what was said regarding the pricing for the Free Company housing.
    In the Yoshida quote he mention land "selling out", for one of the reasons setting the price point. My take on that is: "Really", running out of land in a virtual world, is simply ridiculous. Or a FC should work for 3 months to save up enough Gil for small or maybe a medium plot of land, I now see that SE is the grinch that stole Christmas.

    I agree with all the players that the price needs to be reduce. Or instead of a Realm Awoken there may a Realm in Revolt.
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    Last edited by Dox; 12-17-2013 at 01:35 PM.

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