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    Elherm's Avatar
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    Slim Shadyy
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50

    Do bards deserve all the nerf ?

    I know this has been addressed already, but really do bards deserve all the nerf they got?

    Sure bard was better in moving and dodging like in titan most likely, but in most stationary fights bards has the lowest dps in all, i would accept a little nerf on the dmg or cross skill over all but they made Rain of death useless as well which was one of the main support skill for the bards! why would i lower evasion for mobs that we dont miss already ?

    am not against the nerf really but i think they took it too far
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    Mythe Vandalay
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    Hyperion
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    Ninja Lv 70
    RoD was only of use in huge mobs like in WP SRs, apart from that monsteres die so easily that the skill is not even worth the TP.
    What's worse is I guess is the fact that flame arrow will undo the status of sleep and stuff like that. Much more annoying in my opinion.
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    Last edited by Reishi; 12-16-2013 at 10:44 PM.

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    Keneblerz's Avatar
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    Anarza Namanka
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    SE seems to REAAALY hate speedruns lol
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    Methos Ranperre
    World
    Jenova
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    Ninja Lv 70
    My thoughts:
    • RoD: If Mob Evasion is purely based on Acc and zero Dmg Calculations, for current content its useless. If Mob Eva is calculated with its Dmg taken, wait for some data before calling it useless.
    • Cross Class: Our sustained dmg has always been on the bottom. These changes really effect our Burst Dmg and I can see why they were needed. It also effects Mnk and Drg on Cross-Class, however they received separate boosts in their own actions.

    I honestly haven't even researched Mob Evasion in this game as I've met Acc requirements on all content. Now I have a reason to.

    I'd rather they reduce our Burst than our already at Game Launch adjusted lower sustained dmg or mess with things like BL proc and potency.

    Still just better off waiting to see the data from geared/skilled players out of Turn 5. Not the majority complaints towards BRD from questionable geared/skilled players on Titan (hard) that helped make these changes.
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    Dooya Evenlift
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    Siren
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    wait for some data before calling it useless.
    Why would you need to wait for data? If you want to play your DPS class correctly, you will be accuracy capped from gear and food. Unless there is some really awful gimmick in CT (lol), RoD is now useless in PvE outside of being a free AoE when you get a proc off Wide Volley.
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    Dooya Evenlift - Siren

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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by energeisT View Post
    Why would you need to wait for data? If you want to play your DPS class correctly, you will be accuracy capped from gear and food. Unless there is some really awful gimmick in CT (lol), RoD is now useless in PvE outside of being a free AoE when you get a proc off Wide Volley.
    MNK and DRG poppin featherfoot in your face would like a word with you.
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    Methos Ranperre
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    Jenova
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by energeisT View Post
    Why would you need to wait for data? If you want to play your DPS class correctly, you will be accuracy capped from gear and food.
    I will repost what I stated in an easier to read format.
    Quote Originally Posted by ReplicaX View Post
    I honestly haven't even researched Mob Evasion in this game as I've met Accuracy requirements on all content and didn't feel a need to at the time.

    RoD:
    • If Mob Evasion is purely based on the Accuracy of Players and there are no Dmg Calculations involved, then 2.1 RoD is useless.
    • If Mob Evasion has Dmg taken calculations involved, wait for some data before calling it useless.
    Even if there is no Damage Calculation, if RoD helps in any Mob mechanics for the new content and/or changes. It won't be entirely useless.

    My main point is wait for the patch release and actual data from findings.
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    Last edited by ReplicaX; 12-16-2013 at 11:45 PM.

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    Adrianna Bellini
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    MNK and DRG poppin featherfoot in your face would like a word with you.
    Quote Originally Posted by energeisT View Post
    RoD is now useless in PvE

    Reading comprehension would like to have a word with you.
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    Electro Witch
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Reishi View Post
    RoD was only of use in huge mobs like in WP SRs, apart from that monsteres die so easily that the skill is not even worth the TP.
    What's worse is I guess is the fact that flame arrow will undo the status of sleep and stuff like that. Much more annoying in my opinion.
    You Sir, are so wrong.....No experience in "end game" huh? RoD saved lives over a million times on Twintania Now it´ll be a Warriors job^^
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    Neru Silverlight
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Electrowitch View Post
    You Sir, are so wrong.....No experience in "end game" huh? RoD saved lives over a million times on Twintania Now it´ll be a Warriors job^^
    Which translates into a minor "buff" since now you have those 200 TP to spare on abilities to do more damage
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