Do bards deserve all the nerf ?

[energeisT]

wait for some data before calling it useless.

Why would you need to wait for data? If you want to play your DPS class correctly, you will be accuracy capped from gear and food. Unless there is some really awful gimmick in CT (lol), RoD is now useless in PvE outside of being a free AoE when you get a proc off Wide Volley.

[Ephier]

Why would you need to wait for data? If you want to play your DPS class correctly, you will be accuracy capped from gear and food. Unless there is some really awful gimmick in CT (lol), RoD is now useless in PvE outside of being a free AoE when you get a proc off Wide Volley.

MNK and DRG poppin featherfoot in your face would like a word with you.

[ReplicaX]

Why would you need to wait for data? If you want to play your DPS class correctly, you will be accuracy capped from gear and food.

I will repost what I stated in an easier to read format.

I honestly haven't even researched Mob Evasion in this game as I've met Accuracy requirements on all content and didn't feel a need to at the time.

RoD:

• If Mob Evasion is purely based on the Accuracy of Players and there are no Dmg Calculations involved, then 2.1 RoD is useless.
• If Mob Evasion has Dmg taken calculations involved, wait for some data before calling it useless.

Even if there is no Damage Calculation, if RoD helps in any Mob mechanics for the new content and/or changes. It won't be entirely useless.

My main point is wait for the patch release and actual data from findings.

[Norbi]

MNK and DRG poppin featherfoot in your face would like a word with you.

RoD is now useless in PvE

Reading comprehension would like to have a word with you.

[newbie]

I know this has been addressed already, but really do bards deserve all the nerf they got?

Sure bard was better in moving and dodging like in titan most likely, but in most stationary fights bards has the lowest dps in all, i would accept a little nerf on the dmg or cross skill over all but they made Rain of death useless as well which was one of the main support skill for the bards! why would i lower evasion for mobs that we dont miss already ?

am not against the nerf really but i think they took it too far

The nerfs make sense from the context of PvP balancing. So yes it's deserved.

[StrejdaTom]

The nerfs make sense from the context of PvP balancing. So yes it's deserved.

PvE and PvP skills aren't the same and they separated them in order to keep the game balanced so no, it isn't deserved.

[newbie]

PvE and PvP skills aren't the same and they separated them in order to keep the game balanced so no, it isn't deserved.

They're not the same but your PvE skills are available to be used. It's what you start off with then over time you can unlock PvP skills.

[AugustusSB]

I know this has been addressed already, but really do bards deserve all the nerf they got?

Sure bard was better in moving and dodging like in titan most likely, but in most stationary fights bards has the lowest dps in all, i would accept a little nerf on the dmg or cross skill over all but they made Rain of death useless as well which was one of the main support skill for the bards! why would i lower evasion for mobs that we dont miss already ?

am not against the nerf really but i think they took it too far

To put it bluntly, yes...

When a Bard in full darklight + hoplite earrings pulls in more dps than me in fully slotted 2 star hq + myth (BiS) chest + Gae Bolg+1 (BiS) + myth ring (BiS) the answer to your question is a full throttled YES.

[Phai]

To put it bluntly, yes...

When a Bard in full darklight + hoplite earrings pulls in more dps than me in fully slotted 2 star hq + myth (BiS) chest + Gae Bolg+1 (BiS) + myth ring (BiS) the answer to your question is a full throttled YES.

Not to be rude, but if that is the case, i think the Brd is playing good, and u need to work on ur rotation.

[BrandoH]

Not to be rude, but if that is the case, i think the Brd is playing good, and u need to work on ur rotation.

QFT. In T5, Bards are the lowest DPS pre-patch. Our Rain of Death helped fill in gaps where someone messed up a Virus rotation (which is also gone now, btw), and our burst helped greatly on the short conflags. Now we have much less utility and burst inside Turn 5 (the most important fight of the game until 2.2). We'll get by just fine, if for nothing less than Mage's Ballad for the WHM and Foe's Requiem for big snake. It's still a huge nerf that has really geared T5 groups in a situation where they're heavily considering cutting out BRD entirely, and will assuredly be testing BRDless teams.