I foresee summoners getting kicked out of static groups.

[BlueMage]

Considering everyone (even BLMs, lol) is claiming their class is being nerfed to the point of uselessness (or not buffed enough and is still useless) and nobody will ever bring them, I wonder who everybody will bring to dungeons and raids? 4 WARs for WP? 8 WARs for Coil?

[Rochetm]

4 WARs for WP? 8 WARs for Coil?

1 war 3 monks for WP and 4 war (they got heals) and 4 monks/drgs for coil.

Everyone else got super minor barley anything nerfs and they are screaming. My guess is they are all bads.

If that really is 10% of a smns damage which sounds like a lot of BS to me... but lets go into make believe land for a bit...


Lets say for now we have...

Mnk 400 dps
blm 400 dps
Smn 400 dps
Brd 400 dps

10 minute fight = 960,000 damage

Lets look at the nerfed omg smn is useless now numbers...

Mnk 400 dps
blm 400 dps
Smn 360 dps
Brd 400 dps

10 minute fight = 936,000 damage

960,000 - 936,000 = 24,000 damage

24,000 / 1,560 = 15.3 seconds

15 secs in a 10 minute long fight is nothing. If you are getting booted its because people don't like you.

[AdvancedWind]

Considering everyone (even BLMs, lol) is claiming their class is being nerfed to the point of uselessness (or not buffed enough and is still useless) and nobody will ever bring them, I wonder who everybody will bring to dungeons and raids? 4 WARs for WP? 8 WARs for Coil?

Eight scholars, given the lustrate buff / holy and medica II nerf that apparently killed white mages based on some threads.